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<P>Dear Don,</P>
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<P>>Our next meeting Korea chapter meeting is planned for <BR>>Oct. 14 (Wed) 5:10pm (PST) / Oct. 15 (Thu) 9:10am (Korea) <BR>><BR>>all the best, Don </P>
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<P>Our next Korea chapter meeting time is as follows:</P>
<P>Nov. 11 (Wed) 5:10pm / Nov. 12 (Thu) 9:10am (Korea)</P>
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<P>Sincerely,</P>
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<P>Myeong Won<BR></P>
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<DIV style="COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 140%">---- Original Message ----<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: black"><B>From : </B>Don Brutzman(brutzman@nps.edu)<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 140%"><B>To : </B>Myeong Won Lee(mwlee@suwon.ac.kr); Johannes Behr(johannes.behr@igd.fraunhofer.de); Yvonne Jung(yvonne.jung@igd.fraunhofer.de); Kwanhee Yoo(khyoo@chungbuk.ac.kr); Gun Lee(endovert@etri.re.kr)<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 140%"><B>Cc : </B>korea-chapter@web3d.org; x3d@web3d.org; Leonard Daly(Leonard.Daly@realism.com); Richard F. Puk(puk@igraphics.com)<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 140%"><B>Sent : </B>Thursday, Oct 22, 2009 10:28 AM<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="COLOR: black; LINE-HEIGHT: 140%"><B>Subject : </B>Re: [X3D] Agenda items for the Korea chapter meeting (Wed. 5:10pm PST / Thu 9:10am Korea)<BR></DIV><BR>We met today 21 October 2009. Attendees are Myeong Won Lee, <BR><BR>Gun Lee, Dick Puk and Don Brutzman. Also briefing at the end was <BR><BR>Kwan-Hee Yoo(Chungbuk National University, Korea). <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Myeong Won Lee wrote: <BR><BR>> The following are the agenda items for today's Korea chapter meeting, <BR><BR>> Oct. 14 (Wed) 5:10pm (PST)/ <BR><BR>> Oct. 15 (Thu) 9:10am (Korea). Please provide updates if any amendments <BR><BR>> or additions are noted. <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> 1. Projective Texture Mapping (Kwan Hee Yoo, Chungbuk National U.) <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> >It is important to have dialog on the X3D mailing list and during the <BR><BR>> >working group meetings. We will try to cover this at the meeting <BR><BR>> >next week, hopefully someone from Korea can attend. <BR><BR><BR><BR>First, it is very important that these documents get posted to the website. <BR><BR><BR><BR>I don't think the attachments are likely getting through by email. <BR><BR>Looking at the email archive shows that many things are scrubbed. <BR><BR>http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2009-October/thread.html <BR><BR><BR><BR>Please ensure that the presentations are available in the Web3D Chapter <BR><BR>document folder, online for members at <BR><BR><BR><BR>http://www.web3d.org <BR><BR>Member Login <BR><BR>Post or Download Documents in Members Working Group Folders <BR><BR>Korea Web3D Forum <BR><BR><BR><BR>Gun Lee will help upload these many documents. If there are still upload <BR><BR>problems, then webmaster Leonard Daly is the person to help fix them. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> We have missed participating in the WG meeting. <BR><BR>> Kwan Hee also defined a new node for PTM in his draft submitted to the <BR><BR>> X3D WG by email. <BR><BR>> It is necessary to review his draft, and to decide whether to include <BR><BR>> the node definition for PTM. <BR><BR>> His draft is attached. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Thank you for posting the specification draft. Please ensure that it is <BR><BR>in the online document directory as listed in previous step. It is a <BR><BR>good addition to the slideset that is already there explaining and <BR><BR>showing how things work. <BR><BR><BR><BR>2 questions: do your three proposed texture nodes work similarly to the <BR><BR>other X3D texture nodes with scope restricted to the geometry in the <BR><BR>same Shape node. For example: <BR><BR><BR><BR>Shape <BR><BR>Geometry node <BR><BR>Appearance <BR><BR>Material <BR><BR>Texture node <BR><BR><BR><BR>Hopefully the functionality DEF and USE are the same, for example <BR><BR>the same OrthoTexture might have a single DEF and 2 USE instances <BR><BR>to apply to the geometry found in 3 different Shape nodes. <BR><BR><BR><BR>(I think the answers are yes, but will let Kwanhee Yoo answer by email.) <BR><BR><BR><BR>> 2. Physical units specification <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> From the last minutes of Korea chapter, <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> >I will add these to the version-control X3D Basic examples under a new <BR><BR>> directory <BR><BR>> >called Units. These will appear at <BR><BR>> > <BR><BR>> >http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Units <BR><BR>> >http://x3d.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/x3d/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Units <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> > <BR><BR>> >Next steps on examples: <BR><BR>> >- Myeong Won will get a sourceforge.net account <BR><BR>> >- Don will insert meta tags for document information, and add the <BR><BR>> examples <BR><BR>> >to the regular distribution <BR><BR>> >- Later we will work on a v3.3 X3D schema addition <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> A. Sourceforge.net opened (username: mwlee) <BR><BR><BR><BR>The X3D project on sourceforge is available at <BR><BR><BR><BR>http://sourceforge.net/projects/x3d <BR><BR><BR><BR>You are now added as a member. To update, please <BR><BR><BR><BR>check out subversion archive for X3D Basic, <BR><BR>developer instructions are at <BR><BR>https://sourceforge.net/projects/x3d/develop <BR><BR><BR><BR>so the directory you want is <BR><BR><BR><BR>cd C:\www.web3d.org\x3d\content\examples\Basic <BR><BR>svn co https://x3d.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/x3d/content/examples/Basic Basic <BR><BR><BR><BR>stay in directory PhysicalUnits, let us edit/add/replace those files <BR><BR><BR><BR>inspectable versions are available at <BR><BR>http://x3d.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/x3d/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/ <BR><BR><BR><BR>There are many online tutorials for using subversion, we can send something <BR><BR>if you like. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> B.In the unit WD, 9.4.2 Inline states "Any UNIT statements contained in <BR><BR>> the file being inlined are ignored" <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> It is recommended that this is replaced with the following: <BR><BR>> "It is necessary to convert the units specified in the inlined file into <BR><BR>> the units in the first file <BR><BR>> by the conversion factor. To be able to compare units specified objects <BR><BR>> with their relative <BR><BR>> scales is an advantage of using units. Otherwise, the unit statements <BR><BR>> need not change scenes <BR><BR>> at all, and then they became useless, and give only units information <BR><BR>> per file like comments." <BR><BR><BR><BR>This issue and the draft specification prose is being discussed on the <BR><BR>x3d mailing list. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> C. Korea chapter wiki page PDF upload error <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> The PDF files were not successfully uploaded to the Korea chapter wiki page. <BR><BR>> Attached are the following materials about physical units: <BR><BR>> - Draft file for the physical units specification (2008.4.25) <BR><BR>> - Presentation file for the physical units at SC24 Monterey meeting <BR><BR>> (2008.06.23) <BR><BR>> - Presentation file for the physical units at Web3D Seoul meeting <BR><BR>> (2008.12.16) <BR><BR>> - Presentation file for Unit Spec for X3D at SC24 London meeting (2009. <BR><BR>> 7. 7) <BR><BR>> - Discussion file for X3D units examples at 2009 SIGGRAPH (2009.8.5) <BR><BR><BR><BR>These will be uploaded as described in paragraph 1 above. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> 3. Mixed reality functions (Gun Lee, ETRI) <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> >He is looking for a C or C++ open-source codebase to implement his <BR><BR>> >work. I recommended consider FreeWrl since it is well supported, <BR><BR>> >well documents, and maintained by a Web3D member organization that <BR><BR>> >is diligent about conformance. <BR><BR>> > <BR><BR>> >http://www.crc.gc.ca/FreeWRL <BR><BR>> >http://freewrl.sourceforge.net <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Gun has also defined the mixed reality functions as new nodes. <BR><BR>> It is necessary to review this and decide if these node definitions are <BR><BR>> appropriate for including the new functions in X3D. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Unfortunately Gun has not yet received comments about these nodes. <BR><BR>He would like to begin implementing them, likely using CyberX3D for C++. <BR><BR>http://www.cybergarage.org/vrml/cx3d/cx3dcc/index.html <BR><BR>He will contact the owner, Satoshi Konno in Tokyo. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Johannes and Yvonne, Fraunhofer has some similar nodes. Have you <BR><BR>you looked at this? Should there be a conference to discuss the <BR><BR>nodes before he implements? Please advise what you think. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Feedback from other browser implementers is welcome also. Please advise. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> 4. Other standardization items proposed <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> - H-Anim motion data definition (Myeong Won Lee, Web3D Seoul meeting, <BR><BR>> Dec. 16, 2009) <BR><BR><BR><BR>We will discuss this during the next meeting. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> - Synthetic data modeling and communication (Sang Won Ghyme, Web3D <BR><BR>> Seoul meeting, Dec.16, 2009, and SC24 London meeting, Jul. 7, 2009) <BR><BR><BR><BR>This proposal is now withdrawn. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> - Mobile X3D functions (Gun Lee, SC24 London meeting, Jul. 7, 2009) <BR><BR><BR><BR>Actually this was by Myeong Won. We will review this at the next meeting. <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>> 5. Web3D Seoul meeting schedule for December <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> >Hopefully I will visit ETRI in Daejeon on Thursday afternoon. <BR><BR>> >After that I will move to Chinhae on Thursday night. <BR><BR>> > Dec. 11 (Fri) other organization (?) <BR><BR>> >Korea Naval Academy in Chinhae <BR><BR><BR><BR>I plan to visit both ADD and Korea Naval Academy with Dr. Kim. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> I heard from Byounghyun that the organization is ADD, not Korea Naval <BR><BR>> Academy, and that Dr. Youngjoo Kim will host. Then, the schedule in <BR><BR>> Korea is as follows: <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Dec. 7 (Mon) <BR><BR>> AM: Web3D Korea Chapter Meeting - Proposals discussion (Seoul Palace Hotel) <BR><BR>> PM: Web3D Korea Chapter Meeting - Proposals discussion (Seoul Palace Hotel) <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Dec. 8 (Tue) <BR><BR>> AM: Discussion Web3D Working Groups (Seoul Palace Hotel) <BR><BR>> PM: Seminar hosted by Prof. Jounghyun Gerard Kim (Korea Univ., Seoul) <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Dec. 9 (Wed) <BR><BR>> AM: Move to Daejon (Daejon) (Yousung Hotel, Daejon) <BR><BR>> PM: KAIST hosted by Prof. Soonhung Han (Daejon) <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Dec.10 (Thu) AM: KAIST (Daejon) (Yousung Hotel, Daejon) <BR><BR>> PM: M&S Center of ADD hosted by Soonhung Han and Chang Moon Myung <BR><BR>> ETRI <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Dec. 11 (Fri) ADD in Chinhae hosted by Youngjoo Kim at NPS <BR><BR><BR><BR>I will ask Youngjoo about hotel there and about ETRI visit. <BR><BR><BR><BR>> Dec. 12 (Sat) to Seoul (Seoul Palace Hotel) <BR><BR>> <BR><BR>> Dec. 13 (Sun) from Seoul to Singapore <BR><BR><BR><BR>Yes this is all correct. Thank you. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Our next meeting Korea chapter meeting is planned for <BR><BR>Oct. 14 (Wed) 5:10pm (PST) / Oct. 15 (Thu) 9:10am (Korea) <BR><BR><BR><BR>all the best, Don <BR><BR>-- <BR><BR>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu <BR><BR>Watkins 270 MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA work +1.831.656.2149 <BR><BR>X3D, virtual worlds, underwater robots, XMSF http://web.nps.navy.mil/~brutzman</BLOCKQUOTE>-- <BR>Myeong Won Lee <BR>Dept. of Internet Information Engineering, U. of Suwon <BR>Hwasung-si, Gyeonggi-do, 445-743 Korea <BR>Tel) +82-31-220-2313, +82-11-9904-4634 <BR>E-mail) mwlee@suwon.ac.kr
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