<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi Don, <div>Could you please submit this in the web3D 2024 easychair workshop track. </div><div><br></div><div><p data-fusion-font="true" style="font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 20px; caret-color: rgb(20, 22, 23); color: rgb(20, 22, 23); font-family: Montserrat; letter-spacing: 0.27px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><b style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: var(--awb-text-font-family); font-size: var(--awb-font-size); font-style: var(--awb-text-font-style); letter-spacing: var(--awb-letter-spacing); text-align: var(--awb-content-alignment); text-transform: var(--awb-text-transform);">Submission:</b><span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: var(--awb-text-font-family); font-size: var(--awb-font-size); font-style: var(--awb-text-font-style); letter-spacing: var(--awb-letter-spacing); text-align: var(--awb-content-alignment); text-transform: var(--awb-text-transform);"> </span><span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: var(--awb-text-font-family); font-size: var(--awb-font-size); font-style: var(--awb-text-font-style); letter-spacing: var(--awb-letter-spacing); text-align: var(--awb-content-alignment); text-transform: var(--awb-text-transform);"></span><a href="https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=web3d2024" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; transition-property: color, background-color, border-color; transition-duration: 0.2s; transition-timing-function: linear; color: rgb(20, 22, 23); font-family: var(--awb-text-font-family); font-size: var(--awb-font-size); font-style: var(--awb-text-font-style); letter-spacing: var(--awb-letter-spacing); text-align: var(--awb-content-alignment); text-transform: var(--awb-text-transform);">https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=web3d2024</a></p><p data-fusion-font="true" style="font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 20px; caret-color: rgb(20, 22, 23); color: rgb(20, 22, 23); font-family: Montserrat; letter-spacing: 0.27px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">Questions about the CFP, program and conference should be emailed to <font color="#000cff" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a href="mailto:program2024@web3d.org" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; transition-property: color, background-color, border-color; transition-duration: 0.2s; transition-timing-function: linear; color: rgb(0, 12, 255);">program2024@web3d.org</a></font><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 12, 255);">.</span></p><p data-fusion-font="true" style="font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; margin: 0px 0px 20px; caret-color: rgb(20, 22, 23); color: rgb(20, 22, 23); font-family: Montserrat; letter-spacing: 0.27px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">Additional information on the conference is available at: <a href="https://web3d.siggraph.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing: border-box; text-decoration: none; transition-property: color, background-color, border-color; transition-duration: 0.2s; transition-timing-function: linear; color: rgb(46, 0, 255);">https://web3d.siggraph.org</a>.</p></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="elnk-inline-message-container" style="border-left: 1px solid #aaa; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 10px 0 10px 15px; margin: 0;"><blockquote><div dir="ltr">
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 1:45 AM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div style="font-family: Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: #000000;">Anita, we have had a good group review. Hopefully the Web3D Conference committee can support this work. Here is a short blurb plus an updated proposal for the workshop. If accepted, we will edit the proposal into a call for participation.</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Common path to follow when proposing and developing any new HAnim capabilities:</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Future structure of loosely coupled parts for evolving the HAnim Standards suite:</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Part 2 Motion Animation: add ability to load BVH files as HAnimMotion nodes,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Part 4, modeling and animation of respiratory and internal organs,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Part 5, motion capture (MOCAP) aligned with HAnim Motion Animation techniques,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Part 6, maybe, do clothing and cloth animation require a new part beyond additions to Part 1 ?</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Part 7, maybe, avatar use cases and technical requirements (e.g. Metaverse Standards Forum working group),</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Informative examples showing how to model varying figures (more than pairs of arms and legs, e.g. octopus etc.)</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Much work has already started, presented in detail during earlier Web3D symposia</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">How are 3D articles of clothing related to (and coupled with) structures for humanoid figures? (for example, ability to swap clothes while also draping over a moving body)</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">From a human-model description perspective, might multiple layers of clothing be defined similarly to multiple layers of skin that are needed for internal organs? </div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Might contact points of clothing on skin be defined compatibly with future definitions for MOCAP tracking points? Alternatively, might HAnimSite functionality get assigned to a specific vertex or area of skin?</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Who can assess the X3D Rigid Body Physics component to precisely identify what additional capabilities are still needed for physically based soft-body and clothing capabilities?</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Suggested initial exemplar demo: long skirt, swappable bodies, fashion-show catwalk motion animation.</div>
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<div> Humanoid Animation (HAnim) International Standard, version 2.0, ISO/IEC 19774</div>
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<div>Part 1 HAnim Architecture, Part 2 Motion Data Animation</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; margin: 0px;">Participants are welcome to provide short point papers or briefing materials in advance, to support group understanding and discussion. Participants are also welcome to comment on any topics of interest.</div>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank" rel="noopener">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p>
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<div id="m_-5102029876115881517divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: #000000;"><strong>From:</strong> Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, July 9, 2024 5:19 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Carol McDonald <<a href="mailto:cemd2@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">cemd2@comcast.net</a>>; Anita Havele <<a href="mailto:anita.havele@web3d.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">anita.havele@web3d.org</a>><br><strong>Cc:</strong> <a href="mailto:puk@igraphics.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">puk@igraphics.com</a> <<a href="mailto:puk@igraphics.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">puk@igraphics.com</a>>; Nicholas Polys <<a href="mailto:npolys@vt.edu" target="_blank" rel="noopener">npolys@vt.edu</a>>; Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>>; Myeong Won Lee <<a href="mailto:myeongwonlee@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">myeongwonlee@gmail.com</a>>; Katy Schildmeyer KS APPAREL DESIGN <<a href="mailto:katy@ksappareldesign.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">katy@ksappareldesign.com</a>>; Bill Benman <<a href="mailto:wbenman@ivn.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">wbenman@ivn.net</a>>; William Glascoe <<a href="mailto:eosocxo@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">eosocxo@comcast.net</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> proposed HAnim workshop, Web3D 2024 Conference, first-draft outline</span>
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<div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: #000000;">Here is a first draft for comment. Following group review, we can produce two variations:</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Short abstract paragraph for the Web3D 2024 program,</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Smooth this outline as an HAnim Workshop Invitation that we can then use to invite participation by others (including IEEE, glTF, MSF, VRM Consortium, ISO SC24, et al.)</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: #000000;">Workshop title: Humanoid Animation (HAnim) Standards Development Strategies</div>
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<div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; color: #000000;">Description: A workshop oriented around short discussions will lay out potential parallel lines of work going forward that can all be part of HAnim Standards. Given the brief time available, specifically NOT a goal is to work on candidate technical solutions or perform technical-tradeoff comparisons. We are looking to enable independent efforts on different parts of future HAnim capabilties, while noting some interdependencies so that future coherence is possible.</div>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; font-size: 9pt;">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank" rel="noopener">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span></p>
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