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<p>Another idea related to <u><b>medical X3D and associated
ontology</b></u>. I have a few ideas but I'm under heavy
workload this month. <br>
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<p>Building an Ontology for various surgical tasks .... dental
procedures... for simulation and training purposes.</p>
<p>Nicholas what do you think ?</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/3/2020 8:24 PM, GPU Group wrote:<br>
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anyone else be interested in submitting a semantics-related
paper, perhaps we can organize a semantics session? We have
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<div>IDEA: render scenes found to an image/screenshot and train
AI with (screenshot,semantics) tuples, so when AI sees a
screenshot of something, it can tell what's in the scene;.</div>
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Doug<br>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 10:08
AM Don Brutzman <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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Attendees: Jakub Flotynski, Don Brutzman. Hello out there?!<br>
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<br>
1. News: we have a summary Web3D.org Events page that
includes links to our pair of presentations in December 2019.<br>
<br>
a. Many Public Events Provide Capstone to 2019 Progress with
X3Dv4<br>
<a
href="https://www.web3d.org/news-story/many-public-events-provide-capstone-2019-progress-x3dv4"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/news-story/many-public-events-provide-capstone-2019-progress-x3dv4</a><br>
<br>
b. Semantic Web Pro (SemWeb.Pro)<br>
<a
href="https://www.web3d.org/event/semantic-web-pro-semwebpro"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/event/semantic-web-pro-semwebpro</a><br>
<br>
"The Semantic Web3D: towards comprehensive representation of
3D content on the Semantic Web" by Christophe Mouton, Don
Brutzman, John Carlson, Jakub Flotyński, Felix Hamza-Lup,
Athanasios Malamos, Marc Petit, Nicholas Polys, Leslie Sikos,
and Krzysztof Walczak.<br>
<a
href="https://www.web3d.org/sites/default/files/attachment/node/2436/edit/20191203-Web3D-semanticweb-SWP2019.pdf"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/sites/default/files/attachment/node/2436/edit/20191203-Web3D-semanticweb-SWP2019.pdf</a><br>
<br>
c. International Conference on 3D Immersion (IC3D)<br>
<a
href="https://www.web3d.org/event/international-conference-3d-immersion-ic3d"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/event/international-conference-3d-immersion-ic3d</a><br>
<br>
Part 2, Query Examples: Semantic Web3D: Towards Comprehensive
Representation of 3D Content on the Semantic Web (paper) by
Jakub Flotyński, Don Brutzman, Felix G. Hamza-Lup, Athanasios
Malamos, Nicholas Polys, Leslie F. Sikos, and Krzysztof
Walczak was presented at International Conference on 3D
Immersion (IC3D) in Brussels Belgium, 11 December 2019.<br>
* <a
href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/semantics/documentation/presentations/IC3D-JakubFlotynski-Presentation57-2D-20191208.pdf"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/semantics/documentation/presentations/IC3D-JakubFlotynski-Presentation57-2D-20191208.pdf</a><br>
* <a
href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/semantics/documentation/papers/2019_IC3D_Hamza-Lup.pdf"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/semantics/documentation/papers/2019_IC3D_Hamza-Lup.pdf</a><br>
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2. Paper: we will adapt and refine the contents of both
SemanticWeb.Pro presentation and IC3D paper/presentation for
Web3D 2020 Conference, submitting a new 8-10 page conference
paper.<br>
<br>
Last year we just had a workshop and not a paper, so having a
full paper this year is appropriate. We want to encourage
individuals working in 3D shape search/semantics to continue
to great track record of success in the Web3D conferences.<br>
<br>
Jakub thinks that a special paper focus might be<br>
- evaluation of the X3D Ontology and XSLT transformation,<br>
- performance of transformation,<br>
- comparison of structural complexity, and<br>
- size of X3D knowledge bases and primary scenes<br>
<br>
Might anyone else be interested in submitting a
semantics-related paper, perhaps we can organize a semantics
session? We have 19 days.<br>
<br>
* Web3D 2020, Seoul Korea<br>
<a href="http://2020.web3dconference.org" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://2020.web3dconference.org</a><br>
<a
href="https://www.web3d.org/event/web3d-2020-conference-seoul-korea"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/event/web3d-2020-conference-seoul-korea</a><br>
<br>
*Paper and Poster Submission Deadline 22 February 2020*<br>
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2. With some discussion, we think the following is the best
approach for the URL/URI problem.<br>
<br>
PREFIX x3d: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#</a>><br>
PREFIX x3do: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0#</a>><br>
<br>
Specifically:<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0</a><br>
can map to actual file<br>
<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0.ttl"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0.ttl</a><br>
<br>
At a later time we might want to have alternative forms (e.g.
XML or JSON-LD syntax) for this same ontology asset. Each
variation can have a specific url address, but the x3do:
prefix can refer to all of them equivalently (since they will
indeed be equivalent).<br>
<br>
This makes sense and has no chance of inflicting any harm on
prior work... We therefore will test this approach, Don will
implement/deploy and then we can evaluate on our next group
call. You will see all of the changes reflected throughout<br>
<br>
* X3D Ontology for Semantic Web<br>
<a
href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/semantics/semantics.html#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/semantics/semantics.html#</a><br>
<br>
* X3D Specifications: Schema and DOCTYPE Validation<br>
<a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/specifications</a><br>
<br>
Once everything is in place, as a courtesy we will then ask
for a website redirect for the prior (currently unlinked) URI.<br>
<br>
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On 2/2/2020 7:36 AM, Don Brutzman wrote:<br>
> X3D Semantic Web Working Group:<br>
> <br>
> One long-running difficulty in use of our ontology is
that the URI identifier does not also map to a URL location,
making it more difficult for others to inspect our ontology.
Having an actual document at the web address matching a URI
encourages adoption, aids troubleshooting and is a common best
practice.<br>
> <br>
> Specific example are current URIs for X3D XML Schema and
X3D Ontology, we are using:<br>
> <br>
> PREFIX x3d: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#</a>><br>
> PREFIX x3do: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/semantics/ontologies/X3dOntology4.0#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/semantics/ontologies/X3dOntology4.0#</a>><br>
> <br>
> The first resolves to an actual website address but the
second does not.<br>
> <br>
> The request to modify web3D.org is feasible but for
various reasons has been met with reluctance.<br>
> <br>
> Meanwhile twp similar solutions that do not require
modifying website configuration have become evident. We can
align ontology address to match the stable XML schema address,
namely:<br>
> <br>
> PREFIX x3d: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#</a>><br>
> PREFIX x3do: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/ontologies/X3dOntology4.0#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/ontologies/X3dOntology4.0#</a>><br>
> <br>
> or even the simpler self-evident URL/URI pattern:<br>
> <br>
> PREFIX x3d: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-4.0.xsd#</a>><br>
> PREFIX x3do: <<a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0#"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dOntology4.0#</a>><br>
> <br>
> This last pair seems most memorable and consistent. Ease
of maintenance and operation also helps reliability, avoiding
potential failure modes. Implementation is straightforward.<br>
> <br>
> The majority of our X3D Semantic Web content is
auto-generated so now is the time to resolve this naming issue
before propagation takes off. Hopefully we can place a
redirect or warning at the prior website URL for anyone trying
to use that.<br>
> <br>
> As ever, good motivation:<br>
> <br>
> * "The answer to your question is the response to the
query." Jim Hendler and Dean Allemang<br>
> <br>
> Request feedback so that we can discuss and reach
consensus promptly, hopefully during weekly teleconference
tomorrow Monday 3 FEB.<br>
<br>
For next week, it is not clear if our schedules can align. We
will try and will use email/phone otherwise.<br>
<br>
Have fun with X3D Semantic Web! 8)<br>
<br>
all the best, Don<br>
-- <br>
Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a
href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
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+1.831.656.2149<br>
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Felix G. Hamza-Lup, Ph.D.
Fulbright Scholar
Professor of Computer Science
Georgia Southern University
Savannah, GA 31419
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