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<p class="MsoNormal">Doh!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Vince, I just realized… I skipped right over Leonard’s email.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The North Dakota nice in me says that you both deserve a UND t-shirt and an ‘I (heart) North Dakota’ hat! You know… for each of your t-shirt and hat collections.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😃</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I appreciate everyone who helped out and provided advice. This has been driving me nuts for several months.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Aaron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Bergstrom, Aaron <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 29, 2025 1:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> X3D Ecosystem public discussion <x3d-ecosystem@web3d.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> vmarchetti@kshell.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [X3D-Ecosystem] X3DOM - Help - HAnim Not Working<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Looks like I owe Vince a UND t-shirt, an ‘I (heart) North Dakota’ hat, and $3.23.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I think the main problem was that I was not using the ‘Full’ version of X3DOM (aka x3dom-full.js). As such the HAnim nodes were not defined.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Once I swapped out the ‘x3d-full.js’ and the ‘x3dom.css’ files/links suggested by Vince, it all started to work. Check out the links below.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">With textures as actual files -
<a href="https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated.html">https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated.html</a>
<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3">With textures as DataURIs -
<a href="https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated2.html">https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated2.html</a><o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal">There is some weirdness with the CommonSurfaceShader… but the debugger says something about missing tangents or something. I’m planning on exporting Tangents in the future anyway. Not a big deal.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">This makes me happy.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">@Vince – Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Aaron<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> X3D-Ecosystem <<a href="mailto:x3d-ecosystem-bounces@web3d.org">x3d-ecosystem-bounces@web3d.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vincent Marchetti via X3D-Ecosystem<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 28, 2025 8:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> X3D Ecosystem public discussion <<a href="mailto:x3d-ecosystem@web3d.org">x3d-ecosystem@web3d.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:vmarchetti@kshell.com">vmarchetti@kshell.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [X3D-Ecosystem] X3DOM - Help - HAnim Not Working<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Aaron<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Leonard beat me to it on the hanimhumanoid not being defined. I think that is a problem with the development diet of x3dom that your file uses. I have tried modifying your file to load a different distribution of x3dom, and also adding
the trick of putting in a colored background I see the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">< Screenshot removed; Postmaster nixed it ><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That is the Conan in silhouette , you also see the x3dom debug console made visible by mouse clicking the canvas and hitting the “d” key.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Further examination of this debug console shows we’re getting the following warnings, again this is with a different x3dom version than you are invoking:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WARNING: Fallback to inefficient multi-index mode since creaseAngle=0.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WARNING: Fallback to inefficient multi-index mode since creaseAngle=0.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">INFO: No Texture URL given, searching for <img> elements…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Which leads me to the thought that this (presumably earlier) x3dom version doesn;t know about the multitexturetransform nor the data URL you are using for the textures.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Incidentally, the x3dom file I am using above is <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am attaching a much truncated file which shows both the script and link elements as well as the background node I added.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Vince Marchetti<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">< attachment removed, postmaster nixed it ><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Aug 28, 2025, at 8:07 PM, Web3D WebServices via X3D-Ecosystem <<a href="mailto:x3d-ecosystem@web3d.org">x3d-ecosystem@web3d.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Hi Aaron,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Not really diving in deep I found the following<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">[X3DOM log] WARNING: Unrecognised X3D element <hanimhumanoid>.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo6">
<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Since everything (at first glance) appears to be a child of <hanimhumanoid>, X3DOM finds nothing to process<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">I suggest putting in a background node (to establish camera orientation) and at least one non-symmetric object to make sure basic processing is working. Sorry I can't be more helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Leonard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will send the following items to the first person who can tell me what I need to do to fix this X3DOM/HTML file so that I can see the animated Conan character:<o:p></o:p></p>
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1 x UND T-Shirt<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo9">
1 x I “heart” ND baseball cap.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo9">
$3 cash + plus whatever I can find in my couch cushions at home.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See the page:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated.html"><span style="color:#0563C1">https://vr.csgrid.org/x3dom/conan-animated.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Aaron<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">--<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>Leonard Daly</b><br>
WebServices, Web3D Consortium<br>
President, Daly Realism -<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><i>Creating the Future</i><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">--<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
X3D-Ecosystem mailing list<br>
</span><a href="mailto:X3D-Ecosystem@web3d.org"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">X3D-Ecosystem@web3d.org</span></a><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br>
</span><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-ecosystem_web3d.org"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#0563C1">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-ecosystem_web3d.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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