<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">I guess I didn't send this earlier.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I did see the standards progress page. For C/C++/C#, are any libraries open source? I’m thinking COIN 3D, OpenInventor, H3D. Maybe others. I see there’s an ISO documentation for each language, but apparently the standard isn’t open source???? I’m looking for opportunities for X3DJSONLD serialization. OpenInventor (COIN 3D) looks super complex.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">For X3DPSAIL, can you point me at an example of loading XML or DOM into a scenegraph? Maybe I missed something???? I’m looking for something like CreateX3DFromString()??? I realized I can create Python from XML, just like my tools can go from JSON to DOM to Python; but my toolchain isn’t Python. Running stylesheets in Python would be a great example.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Looking here:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div style="font-size:inherit"><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/stylesheets/python/examples/PythonX3dSmokeTests.py" style="font-size:inherit" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/stylesheets/python/examples/PythonX3dSmokeTests.py</a></div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 25, 2026 at 12:19 AM Don Brutzman <<a href="mailto:don.brutzman@gmail.com" target="_blank">don.brutzman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Standards planning status appears on the following page.</div><div><ul><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/progress" target="_blank">X3D Standards Progress | Web3D Consortium</a></li><li><a href="https://www.web3d.org/x3d/progress" target="_blank">https://www.web3d.org/x3d/progress</a></li></ul><div>Scroll past overview prose to find links to each version completed, in progress and planned.</div></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace"><br></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">all the best, Don</font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">-- </font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">X3D Graphics, Maritime Robotics, Distributed Simulation</font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><font face="monospace">Relative Motion Consulting <a href="https://RelativeMotion.info" target="_blank">https://RelativeMotion.info</a></font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 7:44 PM John Carlson via X3D-Ecosystem <<a href="mailto:x3d-ecosystem@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-ecosystem@web3d.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">A quick search reveals this page:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div style="font-size:inherit"><a href="https://wiki.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_Python_Language_Binding" style="font-size:inherit" target="_blank">https://wiki.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_Python_Language_Binding</a></div><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This link on the page is dead?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div style="font-size:inherit"><a href="https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC%2019777" style="font-size:inherit" target="_blank">https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC%2019777</a></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br style="font-size:inherit"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif;font-size:inherit;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">Btw: both 19776-4 and 19776-5 are titled JSON encoding?????</span></div>==================================</div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">I could start writing a Python binding standard? Except we have three versions, one based on GraalPy/X3DJSAIL and one based on “normal” python-X3DPSAIL, and if course H3D, which AFAIK, has C++ underneath? I believe CGE may also have plans for Python.</div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">GraalPy examples are here:</div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:inherit"><a href="https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/tree/master/src/main/graalpy/net/coderextreme" style="font-size:inherit" target="_blank">https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/tree/master/src/main/graalpy/net/coderextreme</a></div><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">Python examples are on the X3D archives, some duplicated here:</div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:inherit"><a href="https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/tree/master/src/main/python/net/x3djsonld/data" style="font-size:inherit" target="_blank">https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/tree/master/src/main/python/net/x3djsonld/data</a></div><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">It seems like the pure python implementation (pythonic) has more sway and implementations, so I am willing to capitulate, even though, in my experience, X3DJSAIL generates better JSON! It was never really my idea to go with a pure python version though, but I don’t know how to install GraalPy in Blender! I will pay anyone $100 if they can make blender run GraalPy for import/export addons on Windows! I’m guessing X3DPSAIL can run stylesheets as well? Perhaps it’s time to convert stylesheets to pure Java, with a stylesheet of course!</div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif;font-size:inherit;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">As far as support, GraalPy is supported by Oracle, and Python is supported by Microsoft (Does Guido still work there?).</span></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif;font-size:inherit;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif;font-size:inherit;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><div dir="auto" style="font-size:inherit"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif;font-size:inherit;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">It would be very nice to have a renderer for X3DJSAIL and X3DPSAIL (see previous post)!</span></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:inherit"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif;font-size:inherit;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div dir="auto" style="font-size:inherit">Has anyone used Xj3D from GraalPy?</div></span></div><br></div><div style="font-size:inherit" dir="auto">==================================</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 8:52 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Apologies, I just noticed I meant X3D python binding.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 8:50 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">What’s the status of the Python encoding standard? Would my participation help?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Instead of spending time on Blender currently, my thought is to go back to developing an “X3D” JSON to CGE scenegraph converter, as that can be developed beyond DOM loading. Does anyone know a good Pascal LLM? I do find begin/end rather tedious.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If there’s a lot of demand for a Blender HAnim export currently, I will reconsider. Or X3D to glTF conversion.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif">John </span><br></div>
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