[X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page

[Joe D Williams]

> With the correct 'type=application/x-oleobject' all I get is
> a blank page/frame.

If the file is not served with that mime, then it progbably won't 
work.
THere is no reason I know of that the type is different in onject or 
embed.
Seems like the one you are using in embed is the correct one.
Joe


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GLG" <info at 3dnetproductions.com>
To: "'Joe D Williams'" <joedwil at earthlink.net>; "'Braden McDaniel'" 
<braden at endoframe.com>; <x3d-public at web3d.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 1:05 AM
Subject: RE: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page


>
>
> Yes Joe, I realized the 'type' element in <object> was not
> likely the same thimg as in <embed>. But it was worth a try
> to see what happens. As it turns out, nested <object> tags
> do not work in Firefox.
>
> With the correct 'type=application/x-oleobject' all I get is
> a blank page/frame.
>
> When attempting to use the <embed>
> 'type="application/x-cc3d"' Firefox complains that a plugin
> needs to be installed.
>
> Looks like I'll continue to rely on <embed> for a while
> until <object> is fully sorted out in Firefox.
>
> Lauren
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joe D Williams [mailto:joedwil at earthlink.net]
>>Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 12:49 AM
>>To: info at 3dnetproductions.com; 'Braden McDaniel'; x3d-
>>public at web3d.org
>>Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page
>>
>>HI Lauren,
>>Both <object> and <embed> can include a type.
>>One thing is: Is the type the same in both the use in
>>object and in
>>embed.
>>The classid in object may not work if the type is not
>>registered by
>>the classid you are trying to invoke. LIkewise for the
>>embed the type
>>is different and that may allow the plugin to be picked.
>>Or, there may
>>be only the one .wrl browser installed. So you are seeing
>>it work but
>>there are definately some potential problems and incolplete
>>statements
>>in there so without further detailed looking and trying, I
>>can't tell
>>you exactly how or why it is working.
>>Good Luck and Best Regards,
>>Joe
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "GLG" <info at 3dnetproductions.com>
>>To: "'Joe D Williams'" <joedwil at earthlink.net>; "'Braden
>>McDaniel'"
>><braden at endoframe.com>; <x3d-public at web3d.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 12:28 PM
>>Subject: RE: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> As Joe notes, you should be able to use a nested object
>>> element (without classid) in place of the embed element.
>>>
>>> That seems like a sensitive solution, but so far <embed>
>>has
>>> allowed us to specify 'TYPE="application/x-cc3d"' which
>>> appears to successfully help select the correct plugin
>>> (Contact in this case - testing with Firefox 3.0.8).
>>Perhaps
>>> I should try the above type in nested <object> instead of
>>> the 'type=application/x-oleobject' we now use. Will
>>report
>>> on that in a few days.
>>>
>>> If you'd like more specifics please see
>>> www.officetowers.com, click "Connect to Server, Start,
>>> Enter, that will take you to the loading page in
>>question.
>>> Thanks for all of the input Joe and Braden.
>>>
>>> Lauren
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Joe D Williams [mailto:joedwil at earthlink.net]
>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:21 PM
>>>>To: info at 3dnetproductions.com; 'Braden McDaniel'; x3d-
>>>>public at web3d.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "GLG" <info at 3dnetproductions.com>
>>>>To: "'Braden McDaniel'" <braden at endoframe.com>; <x3d-
>>>>public at web3d.org>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:29 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] Web3D.org Front Page
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am saying if you need to use classid in <object> to
>>load
>>>>a
>>>>> particular plugin in IE, then you must use <embed> as
>>>>well
>>>>> for firefox to be able to load that plugin (or another
>>>>one
>>>>> to handle the mime type). In other words, using classid
>>>>in
>>>>> <object> will cause it to malfunction in firefox.
>>>><object>
>>>>> will work in firefox without classid, but using it
>>breaks
>>>>> it. So if the <object> tag is broken then you'll need
>>>>> <embed> to fall back on. At least that is my
>>experience.
>>>>
>>>>Well that is correct, but there was a time when Ff didn't
>>>>understand
>>>><object>, so <embed> was required for fallback. Now all
>>>>browsers will
>>>>accept <object> so the fallback here could be another
>>>><object> without
>>>>@classid and that would work.
>>>>However, later browsers are now just overlooking classid
>>>>rather than
>>>>failing, so in the latest you might fine you need no
>>>>fallback except
>>>>maybe some text if the X3D browser can't be found.
>>>>
>>>>At this time it might be good to test the W3C browsers
>>you
>>>>are
>>>>interested in and see which uses the fallback, maybe by
>>>>having a
>>>>different X3D file name in the fallback content.
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>Joe
>>>
>>>
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