[X3D-Public] remote motion invocation (RMI)

Tue Mar 1 11:47:48 PST 2011

Hi, Lauren --

You can find it in the latest version of the X3D standard ISO/IEC 19775-1.2
located at:

	http://www.web3d.org/x3d/specifications/

  -- Dick

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org [mailto:x3d-public-
> bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of GLG
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:15 AM
> To: 'Joe D Williams'; 'Sven-Erik Tiberg'; npolys at vt.edu;
x3d-public at web3d.org
> Cc: luca.chittaro at uniud.it
> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation (RMI)
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Joe,
> 
> While we are on the subject, I have asked you this before but I think you
missed
> it. There is a link at
> 
> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/workgroups/h-anim/
> 
> for ISO-IEC-19775 X3D Component 26 Humanoid Animation
> (H-Anim) which describes H-Anim interfaces in terms of the X3D
scenegraph...
> 
> That link is broken. Where else can I obtain this? If I am asking the
wrong person
> then, can someone else help?
> 
> Apologies for hijacking this thread, maybe I am not getting this right,
but, I have
> difficulties getting around my head how server side rasterization can work
with
> X3D other than with the MovieTexture node.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lauren
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org [mailto:x3d-public-
> >bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of Joe D Williams
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:09 PM
> >To: Sven-Erik Tiberg; npolys at vt.edu; x3d-public at web3d.org
> >Cc: luca.chittaro at uniud.it
> >Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation (RMI)
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sven-Erik Tiberg" <Sven-Erik.Tiberg at ltu.se>
> >To: <npolys at vt.edu>; <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> >Cc: <luca.chittaro at uniud.it>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 6:14 AM
> >Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation (RMI)
> >
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> A note.
> >> Would it be possible to create a object similar to
> >dynamic h-anim,
> >> looking and behaving like a moose.
> >
> >THe basis for h-anim comes from general-purpose hierarchical animation
> >needs. That is, the shoulder joint is connected to the elbow joint, for
> >example, such that when the shoulder joint is moved, then the elbow
> >joint is translated accordingly as expected. To follow the same
> >technique for a different character, just position the joints and
> >segments you chose to use depending upon the level of articulation you
> >need in skeleton space then build the skin in skin space (hopefully the
> >same as skeleton space), connect it up and animate the thing.
> >
> >>
> >> No I'm not kidding, in the future we hope to create a
> >X3D-sceen for
> >> driver simulator with "living" moose and reindeers (
> >they are not so
> >> exotic up here but more real and a hazard on the roads
> >).
> >> Could be that the same motion pattern can be used for
> >deers and elks
> >> and ..
> >
> >possibly. Note that the selection of initial binding time joint
> >rotation is important.
> >
> >Good Luck and Best Regards,
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >>
> >> /Sven-Erik Tiberg
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org
> >> [mailto:x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of
> >Sven-Erik Tiberg
> >> Sent: den 1 mars 2011 08:51
> >> To: npolys at vt.edu; x3d-public at web3d.org
> >> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
> >(RMI)
> >>
> >>
> >> If there are a need for extending the h-anim kinematic
> >capacity I
> >> would have a look at Modelica https://www.modelica.org/
> >And  (
> >> openmodelica ) https://www.modelica.org/ for
> >calculation of dynamic
> >> behavior.
> >>
> >> IMHO it would not be impossible to interface an
> >openmodelica model
> >> that runs in Real Time to a X3D sceen.
> >>
> >> On animiation of human I would like to suggest that you
> >take a look
> >> at http://hcilab.uniud.it/index.html  and it's editor
> >H-Animator
> >> http://hcilab.uniud.it/demos-videos/item11.html
> >>
> >> /Sven-Erik Tiberg
> >> Lulea Univ of Technology
> >> Sweden
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org
> >> [mailto:x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of
> >Nicholas F. Polys
> >> Sent: den 28 februari 2011 21:34
> >> To: x3d-public at web3d.org
> >> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
> >(RMI)
> >>
> >> One of our members was working on this spec some time
> >ago (2001),
> >> perhaps a good integration target with H-Anim for such
> >a platform or
> >> communication layer: HumanML
> >> http://www.oasis-
> >open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=humanmarkup
> >>
> >> it does mention kinesthetics in the overview but I am
> >really not
> >> sure where it has been adopted.
> >> ?
> >>
> >> br,
> >>
> >> _n_polys
> >>
> >> On 2/28/2011 1:54 PM, Joe D Williams wrote:
> >>>> And what if the script could recive states ( ROUTED
> >events ) from
> >>>> the
> >>>> 3D browser and do a animation on the fly using
> >inverse kinematics,
> >>>> that would be cool.
> >>>
> >>> I think the basic needed structure for that is in the
> >X3D H-Anim
> >>> spec.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Joe
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sven-Erik Tiberg"
> >>> <Sven-Erik.Tiberg at ltu.se>
> >>> To: "John Carlson" <john.carlson3 at sbcglobal.net>;
> >>> <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:50 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
> >(RMI)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> What if using an from the browser external motion
> >engine as you
> >>>> mention, but let the motion engine host in the client
> >computer.
> >>>> Communicating new states to the 3D-browser (to a  h-
> >amin model )
> >>>> trough a script.
> >>>> And what if the script could recive states ( ROUTED
> >events ) from
> >>>> the
> >>>> 3D browser and do a animation on the fly using
> >inverse kinematics,
> >>>> that would be cool.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for bringing up this subject.
> >>>>
> >>>> /Sven-Erik Tiberg
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org
> >>>> [mailto:x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of
> >John Carlson
> >>>> Sent: den 26 februari 2011 05:49
> >>>> To: <x3d-public at web3d.org> mailing list
> >>>> Subject: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation (RMI)
> >>>>
> >>>> Instead of downloading motion into a 3D scene, how
> >about uploading
> >>>> motion into a remote social network server or robot?
> >One could
> >>>> upload motions to a remote server, and then invoke
> >them with
> >>>> parameters.  One could create classes aggregating
> >motion methods,
> >>>> instantiate classes to create behaviors in avatars or
> >robots.
> >>>>
> >>>> What if H-Anim was used to upload and control avatars
> >remotely,
> >>>> instead of downloaded models?  What I am thinking of
> >is something
> >>>> like Kinect/PrimeSense for primitive motion input + a
> >programming
> >>>> language for
> >repetition/parameterization/classes/instantation.
> >>>> What
> >>>> if I chose a protocol/programming such as JavaScript?
> >>>>
> >>>> Does DIS do this?  Are there any patents to be aware
> >of?  If we
> >>>> use
> >>>> something like Caja on the server, or sandbox the
> >motion on the
> >>>> server, could we insure the security of such an
> >endeavor?
> >>>>
> >>>> Initially, I am thinking only of video download.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> John Carlson
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> >> --
> >> Nicholas F. Polys Ph.D.
> >>
> >> Director of Visual Computing
> >> Virginia Tech Information Technology
> >>
> >> Affiliate Research Professor
> >> Virginia Tech Computer Science
> >>
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