[X3D-Public] remote motion invocation (RMI)
GLG
info at 3dnetproductions.com
Tue Mar 1 12:58:25 PST 2011
Thanks Richard,
That was my original question back in May of 2010. I
wanted to know if the link in question referred to the
spec or something else. This was in the context of a
thread titled "Semantic X3D and the desire for motion
capture libraries for X3D", that I believe John started at
the time.
Cheers,
Lauren
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Puk [mailto:puk at igraphics.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 2:48 PM
>To: info at 3dnetproductions.com; 'Joe D Williams'; 'Sven-
>Erik Tiberg'; npolys at vt.edu; x3d-public at web3d.org
>Cc: luca.chittaro at uniud.it
>Subject: RE: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation (RMI)
>
>Hi, Lauren --
>
>You can find it in the latest version of the X3D standard
>ISO/IEC 19775-1.2
>located at:
>
> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/specifications/
>
> -- Dick
>
>/*****************************************
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>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org [mailto:x3d-public-
>> bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of GLG
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:15 AM
>> To: 'Joe D Williams'; 'Sven-Erik Tiberg';
>npolys at vt.edu;
>x3d-public at web3d.org
>> Cc: luca.chittaro at uniud.it
>> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
>(RMI)
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Joe,
>>
>> While we are on the subject, I have asked you this
>before but I think you
>missed
>> it. There is a link at
>>
>> http://www.web3d.org/x3d/workgroups/h-anim/
>>
>> for ISO-IEC-19775 X3D Component 26 Humanoid Animation
>> (H-Anim) which describes H-Anim interfaces in terms of
>the X3D
>scenegraph...
>>
>> That link is broken. Where else can I obtain this? If I
>am asking the
>wrong person
>> then, can someone else help?
>>
>> Apologies for hijacking this thread, maybe I am not
>getting this right,
>but, I have
>> difficulties getting around my head how server side
>rasterization can work
>with
>> X3D other than with the MovieTexture node.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org [mailto:x3d-public-
>> >bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of Joe D Williams
>> >Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:09 PM
>> >To: Sven-Erik Tiberg; npolys at vt.edu; x3d-
>public at web3d.org
>> >Cc: luca.chittaro at uniud.it
>> >Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
>(RMI)
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Sven-Erik Tiberg" <Sven-Erik.Tiberg at ltu.se>
>> >To: <npolys at vt.edu>; <x3d-public at web3d.org>
>> >Cc: <luca.chittaro at uniud.it>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 6:14 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
>(RMI)
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> A note.
>> >> Would it be possible to create a object similar to
>> >dynamic h-anim,
>> >> looking and behaving like a moose.
>> >
>> >THe basis for h-anim comes from general-purpose
>hierarchical animation
>> >needs. That is, the shoulder joint is connected to the
>elbow joint, for
>> >example, such that when the shoulder joint is moved,
>then the elbow
>> >joint is translated accordingly as expected. To follow
>the same
>> >technique for a different character, just position the
>joints and
>> >segments you chose to use depending upon the level of
>articulation you
>> >need in skeleton space then build the skin in skin
>space (hopefully the
>> >same as skeleton space), connect it up and animate the
>thing.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> No I'm not kidding, in the future we hope to create
>a
>> >X3D-sceen for
>> >> driver simulator with "living" moose and reindeers (
>> >they are not so
>> >> exotic up here but more real and a hazard on the
>roads
>> >).
>> >> Could be that the same motion pattern can be used
>for
>> >deers and elks
>> >> and ..
>> >
>> >possibly. Note that the selection of initial binding
>time joint
>> >rotation is important.
>> >
>> >Good Luck and Best Regards,
>> >Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> /Sven-Erik Tiberg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org
>> >> [mailto:x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of
>> >Sven-Erik Tiberg
>> >> Sent: den 1 mars 2011 08:51
>> >> To: npolys at vt.edu; x3d-public at web3d.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
>> >(RMI)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If there are a need for extending the h-anim
>kinematic
>> >capacity I
>> >> would have a look at Modelica
>https://www.modelica.org/
>> >And (
>> >> openmodelica ) https://www.modelica.org/ for
>> >calculation of dynamic
>> >> behavior.
>> >>
>> >> IMHO it would not be impossible to interface an
>> >openmodelica model
>> >> that runs in Real Time to a X3D sceen.
>> >>
>> >> On animiation of human I would like to suggest that
>you
>> >take a look
>> >> at http://hcilab.uniud.it/index.html and it's
>editor
>> >H-Animator
>> >> http://hcilab.uniud.it/demos-videos/item11.html
>> >>
>> >> /Sven-Erik Tiberg
>> >> Lulea Univ of Technology
>> >> Sweden
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org
>> >> [mailto:x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of
>> >Nicholas F. Polys
>> >> Sent: den 28 februari 2011 21:34
>> >> To: x3d-public at web3d.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
>> >(RMI)
>> >>
>> >> One of our members was working on this spec some
>time
>> >ago (2001),
>> >> perhaps a good integration target with H-Anim for
>such
>> >a platform or
>> >> communication layer: HumanML
>> >> http://www.oasis-
>> >open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=humanmarkup
>> >>
>> >> it does mention kinesthetics in the overview but I
>am
>> >really not
>> >> sure where it has been adopted.
>> >> ?
>> >>
>> >> br,
>> >>
>> >> _n_polys
>> >>
>> >> On 2/28/2011 1:54 PM, Joe D Williams wrote:
>> >>>> And what if the script could recive states (
>ROUTED
>> >events ) from
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> 3D browser and do a animation on the fly using
>> >inverse kinematics,
>> >>>> that would be cool.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think the basic needed structure for that is in
>the
>> >X3D H-Anim
>> >>> spec.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best Regards,
>> >>> Joe
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sven-Erik
>Tiberg"
>> >>> <Sven-Erik.Tiberg at ltu.se>
>> >>> To: "John Carlson" <john.carlson3 at sbcglobal.net>;
>> >>> <x3d-public at web3d.org>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 11:50 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
>> >(RMI)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> What if using an from the browser external motion
>> >engine as you
>> >>>> mention, but let the motion engine host in the
>client
>> >computer.
>> >>>> Communicating new states to the 3D-browser (to a
>h-
>> >amin model )
>> >>>> trough a script.
>> >>>> And what if the script could recive states (
>ROUTED
>> >events ) from
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> 3D browser and do a animation on the fly using
>> >inverse kinematics,
>> >>>> that would be cool.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for bringing up this subject.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> /Sven-Erik Tiberg
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org
>> >>>> [mailto:x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org] On Behalf Of
>> >John Carlson
>> >>>> Sent: den 26 februari 2011 05:49
>> >>>> To: <x3d-public at web3d.org> mailing list
>> >>>> Subject: [X3D-Public] remote motion invocation
>(RMI)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Instead of downloading motion into a 3D scene, how
>> >about uploading
>> >>>> motion into a remote social network server or
>robot?
>> >One could
>> >>>> upload motions to a remote server, and then invoke
>> >them with
>> >>>> parameters. One could create classes aggregating
>> >motion methods,
>> >>>> instantiate classes to create behaviors in avatars
>or
>> >robots.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What if H-Anim was used to upload and control
>avatars
>> >remotely,
>> >>>> instead of downloaded models? What I am thinking
>of
>> >is something
>> >>>> like Kinect/PrimeSense for primitive motion input
>+ a
>> >programming
>> >>>> language for
>> >repetition/parameterization/classes/instantation.
>> >>>> What
>> >>>> if I chose a protocol/programming such as
>JavaScript?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Does DIS do this? Are there any patents to be
>aware
>> >of? If we
>> >>>> use
>> >>>> something like Caja on the server, or sandbox the
>> >motion on the
>> >>>> server, could we insure the security of such an
>> >endeavor?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Initially, I am thinking only of video download.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> John Carlson
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >> --
>> >> Nicholas F. Polys Ph.D.
>> >>
>> >> Director of Visual Computing
>> >> Virginia Tech Information Technology
>> >>
>> >> Affiliate Research Professor
>> >> Virginia Tech Computer Science
>> >>
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