[X3D-Public] VRML models - was Re: Octaga?

[Joe D Williams]

maybe easier to see here

http://www.hypermultimedia.com/x3d/hanim/hanimLOA3A83RightHand.x3dv

http://www.hypermultimedia.com/x3d/hanim/hanimLOA3A83RightHand.txt

the skin is not quite connected right in BSContact but looked right in 
old Flux.
that hand is shown using simple interpolators for the joints.
If any, an incompletness is just not using any proto since BS and all 
X3D incorporated the same nodes for Joint, Sites, Segments and main 
node.

Web3D Implementors Specifyers: Seeing the scripting used here to 
produce timings and frames leads directly into the use case of those 
authors not satisfied with realtime frame rates.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Joe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe D Williams" <joedwil at earthlink.net>
To: "John Stewart" <alex.stewart at crc.ca>; "Richard Kennaway" 
<jrk at cmp.uea.ac.uk>
Cc: <x3d-public at web3d.org>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] VRML models - was Re: Octaga?


> The great thing about X3D and Classic VRML is that in both your 
> don't
> need the proto(s)
> for the h-anim structures.
> anyomore for the joints, sites and all, makes it easier.
> Also many scripted timings and interpolations are use. I would like 
> to
> understand  that better since there are several possibilities with
> specific framepersecond sync and pL
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Kennaway" <jrk at cmp.uea.ac.uk>
> To: "John Stewart" <alex.stewart at crc.ca>; "Richard Kennaway"
> <jrk at cmp.uea.ac.uk>
> Cc: <x3d-public at web3d.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] VRML models - was Re: Octaga?
>
>
>> At 17:05 +0100 5/5/11, John Stewart wrote:
>>>Richard;
>>>
>>>  > Does anyone know what became of the Octaga VRML viewer?  The
>>> last trace of octaga.com on the Internet Archive is from October
>>> 2009, and I can't find any trace of who they were on Google.  Has
>>> their code simply vanished?  Octaga is the only VRML viewer for 
>>> the
>>> Mac that is able to display the VRML that I generate, but every OS
>>> upgrade puts it at risk.
>>>
>>>I don't know what happened to Octaga; I hope my buddy Espen from
>>>Octaga is well employed, and that they have just shifted focus.
>>>
>>>Remind me - why doesn't FreeWRL work for your data again?
>>
>> I was never able to work that out -- it would just crash or hang
>> FreeWRL.  I was able to whittle my 1MB of VRML down to very small
>> and simple examples that would fail, but there wasn't any pattern 
>> to
>> the failures.  Despite a few bug fixes to FreeWRL I was never able
>> to get close to being able to use it.
>>
>> My VRML files contain about 3700 lines of heavily scripted and
>> interdependent PROTOs, 9000 lines defining a fully articulated
>> H-Anim stick figure, and a varying amount of animation data driving
>> it.
>>
>> My VRML didn't work perfectly in Octaga at first, but it got close
>> enough that I was able to track down and fix what Octaga couldn't
>> cope with.  It also works in Contact on a PC, but doing my program
>> development on a Mac is a lot more convenient.
>>
>> If anyone wants a torture test for their VRML viewer (I haven't 
>> made
>> the jump to X3D yet), there's a 0.8MB example at
>> http://www.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/distribution/TestSuccessiveFingers.wrl,
>> and a screen shot at
>> http://www.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/distribution/TestSuccessiveFingers.png
>> I generate these files for prototyping animations.  The production
>> environment that uses my animation generator doesn't involve VRML 
>> at
>> all.
>>
>> The current version of FreeWRL doesn't crash on this example, but
>> just renders an empty scene with the correct background colour.
>>
>> --
>> Richard Kennaway, jrk at cmp.uea.ac.uk, http://www.cmp.uea.ac.uk/~jrk/
>> School of Computing Sciences,
>> University of East Anglia, Norwich NR4 7TJ, U.K.
>>
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