[X3D-Public] 3D in HTML! What a great new idea!

[Joshua Smith]

In Mobile, only high-end devices have high-performance 3D graphics hardware (and the term "high-performance" is a stretch, as it is nothing like high-performance desktop hardware). In particular, you need a genuine certified genius to get decent lighting performance out of these things. The vast majority of mobile devices in people's hands internationally have no 3D hardware to speak of.

Almost no embedded devices have 3D chips. That's just wishful thinking.

As for WebGL, I'm worried about the priorities of the vendors. I've found that it is trivially easy to construct scenes which not only kill the browser, but take the entire O/S down with them. Google & Mozilla need to put protecting end-users higher in their list of priorities, or there is going to be a backlash. (And MS is absolutely right about the "attack surface" problem.)

We've yet to see WebGL functioning well enough on a mobile device to be a viable alternative to native.

And WebGL in the enterprise has a huge hole in it labeled IE (WebGL in Enterprise Web Apps? Uh, no. | kaon).

But the reason I posted this link in the first place is that it reads like these guys are just "inventing" VRML or X3D all over again. I can see why they might want to revise history, but acting like it never happened saps their credibility.

-Joshua

On Aug 9, 2012, at 11:21 AM, Tony Parisi <tparisi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the statement is pretty accurate at this point. You can't really buy a laptop that doesn't have graphics-- at least the Intel shared mem type.
> 
> I was in BestBuy a couple of days ago and the Samsung ChromeBook I tried out had WebGL built-in. No install. Just run it. It was pretty fast, too.
> 
> Tony
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> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:18 AM, <cbullard at hiwaay.net> wrote:
> Could use some fact checking.  It's in the realm of "Christopher Columbus was the discoverer of America" quality.
> 
> "Although almost all PCs, as well as mobile and embedded devices, already contain high-performance 3D graphics hardware to process interactive 3D, it's never made its way onto the web."
> 
> Nothing robs an effort of credibility as much as over-hyped, easily refuted claims and rewritten history.  If we've learned nothing here on a list representing a community and technology that evidently "never made its way onto the web", surely we've learned that.
> 
> len
> 
> Quoting Tony Parisi <tparisi at gmail.com>:
> 
> It's a great idea, actually. If Fraunhoffer is involved I would hope it has
> strong roots in VRML/X3D (but with much-need fixes).
> 
> Meantime, prototyping based on WebGL is a great way to prove it.
> 
> My $.02
> 
> Tony
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> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Joshua Smith <jesmith at kaon.com> wrote:
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> 
> http://www.tgdaily.com/software-features/65264-interactive-3d-to-come-to-html
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> What the bejeezes is XML3D?
> 
> -Joshua
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