[X3D-Public] Vendor agnostic/neutral icon(s)?

[doug sanden]

Don,
OK thanks - I'll study.
-Doug
more..
Ideally
1. family:  .wrl .x3d and newer related would have a similar/familiy/theme icon look, so they look like they belong together, but slightly different. to hint they aren't the same and different apps may handle them. 
2. grayable if not handled.
3. Small icons are needed for the shell 16x16 I think? Can't get much in there.
4. and -as usual-  differentiation from other common app icons

>From below, just the old (sphere,box,cone) might work, if it can be differentiated slightly (yet show family/heritage/lineage) for x3d,vs vrml (future json). and grayable:
http://dug9.userssourceforge.net/web3d/icons/vrml3_16.gif
http://dug9.userssourceforge.net/web3d/icons/vrml3_gray_16.gif
http://dug9.userssourceforge.net/web3d/icons/vrml3_32.gif
Benefit: already familiar, small, grayable, doesn't constrain to just x3d or vrml or json, but needs something to differentiate X3D from VRML (and future versions), perhaps re-arranged colors or shapes.

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> We have long needed to provide better support and documentation for this issue. It would be great to sort it all out.
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> Historically we have had problems with vendors "stepping on each others toes" in this area. It would be helpful to define a baseline practice and suggested ways to vary compatibly.
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> You can find some candidate images in
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> http://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/images/
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> including
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> http://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/images/x3d2-s.gif
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> and
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> http://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/icons/
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> including
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> http://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/icons/X3D.ico
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> http://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/icons/X3DtextIcon16.png
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> http://sourceforge.net/p/x3d/code/HEAD/tree/www.web3d.org/x3d/content/icons/X3DtextIcon.tif
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> On 9/19/2013 9:47 AM, doug sanden wrote:
>> Q. are there free/open license icons for web3d files that are vendor neutral, that I can use when installing a web3d application, to set so called shell file associations in the file explorer/shell, so as to indicate web3d files regardless of which application(s) can open them?
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>> -Doug
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>> more...
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>> In MS windows, icons can be associated with file extensions (ie .x3d) as seen by a so-called shell or file explorer:
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>> http://dug9.users.sourceforge.net/web3d/ShellScreenshot.jpg
>> - here .x3z and .x3db are 'unclaimed'
>> - .wrl, .x3d and .x3dv are claimed by flux
>> - .wrz is identified as file to be opened by a web browser (vs app)
>> - Xj3D's icon and freewrl's icon are shown for comparison
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>> Public / contentious extensions - like all our web3d extensions .wrl, .wrz .x3d, .x3dv, .x3db - can cause a 'fight' when different applications install and attempt to claim the extensions for themselves, including imposing their vendor-specific icon on the shell. The last one installed wins.
>> When installing freewrl, rather than imposing freewrl's icon, I'd like to put a vendor neutral icon, if there is one.
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>> even more...
>> I noticed windows Vista and beyond has something called 'PerceivedType' for the shell ie .png is an 'image'. Probably scene files could be put as 'model'.
>> It might be nice to show which filetypes are handled by at least one app, vs unhandled web3d files. IDEA: same icon except gray if not handled.
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>> more...
>> I'm working over on freewrl.sourceforge.net
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> all the best, Don
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