[x3d-public] X3D-Edit 4.0, V4. Support of xmlns attribute, x3d namespace

Don Brutzman brutzman at nps.edu
Sun Mar 6 21:57:06 PST 2016


Apologies for late response, hadn't seen this earlier.  Thanks for bringing this up, it is important.

On 3/2/2016 7:55 AM, John Carlson wrote:
> I note that X3D-Edit does not support the xmlns attribute fairly well, so documents coming out of XMLSerializer in Chrome and perhaps other browsers will be seriously broken.  Also the X3D to JSON stylesheet seems to croak with no output.  Here’s an example scene out of an XML Serializer.  Please support xmlns.  If I’ve got the wrong namespace, let me know.  There appear to be many options.
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <!DOCTYPE X3D PUBLIC "ISO//Web3D//DTD X3D 3.3//EN" "http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-3.3.dtd">
> <X3D xmlns="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-namespace" profile="Immersive" version="3.3" xsd:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-3.3.xsd" id="x3dele" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"><head/>
[...]

Are you thinking of <x3d:X3D/> elements within an XHTML document that has no namespaces for html elements?

The Scene Authoring Hints document the namespace configuration that is used in all of the examples.

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Validation of X3D Scenes using DTD and XML Schema
http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dSceneAuthoringHints.html#Validation

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE X3D PUBLIC "ISO//Web3D//DTD X3D 3.3//EN"
                      "http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-3.3.dtd">
<X3D profile="Immersive" version="3.3"
   xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
    xsd:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-3.3.xsd">
=================================================

If I recall correctly, the combined definition of those last 2 attributes is what formally legitimized a no-namespace X3D document.

Besides XML Schema, it looks like the other defining W3C reference is

	Namespaces in XML 1.0 (Third Edition)
	https://www.w3.org/TR/xml-names/

There was a little work on this topic 6 years ago.  We reserved a namespace uri for X3D that matches the following url.  There is some documentation and links at that location. If it helps, you can use that value with reasonable assurance of stability.  Presumably it is also appropriate for use with X3D v3 series.

http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d
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| This is a placeholder page pointing to discussions on possible changes to the X3D namespace.
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| Suggested future common namespace for X3D, if versioning and other issues are addressed:
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|         http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d
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| References:
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|     HTML5 Recommendation Additions for X3D: Change to HTML5 section 9.3 Namespaces
|     http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/html5/HTML5RecommendationAdditionsForX3D.html#issue-q
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|     x3d-public at web3d.org mailing list thread
|     http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2010-January/000580.html
|
| Questions about this page may be directed to the x3d-public_web3d.org mailing list or brutzman at nps.edu
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This namespace uri was proposed during the era when HTML5 draft was considering X3D and other namespaces for integration.  A variety of changes occurred to the HTML5 draft in subsequent years.

The approved HTML5 section is now found at

https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/infrastructure.html#namespaces
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| 2.8 Namespaces
|
| The HTML namespace is: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
|
| The MathML namespace is: http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML
|
| The SVG namespace is: http://www.w3.org/2000/svg
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| The XLink namespace is: http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink
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| The XML namespace is: http://www.w3.org/XML/1998/namespace
|
| The XMLNS namespace is: http://www.w3.org/2000/xmlns/
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| Data mining tools and other user agents that perform operations on content without running scripts, evaluating CSS or XPath expressions, or otherwise exposing the resulting DOM to arbitrary content, may "support namespaces" by just asserting that their DOM node analogues are in certain namespaces, without actually exposing the above strings.
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| In the HTML syntax, namespace prefixes and namespace declarations do not have the same effect as in XML. For instance, the colon has no special meaning in HTML element names.
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Not sure we ever started a list of possible attribute additions to the X3D element.

Not yet clear what kind of support is appropriate in our X3D schemas, DTD, schematron and tools like X3D-Edit.

X3DOM considers x3d like a canvas tag with extensions are found at
http://doc.x3dom.org/author/configuration.html

> Parameter 	Values 	Default 	Description
> showLog 	true, false 	false 	Hide or display the logging console
> showStat 	true, false 	false 	Hide or display the statistics overlay
> showProgress 	true, false 	true 	Hide or show the loading indicator.
> PrimitiveQuality 	High, Medium, Low, float 	High/1.0 	Render quality (tesselation level) for Box, Cone, Cylinder, Sphere.

all the best, Don
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