[x3d-public] Preliminary Announcement for XSeen: problems inmotivation phrasing

John Carlson yottzumm at gmail.com
Sun Jul 9 08:55:40 PDT 2017


Let me go further than this and say that I think that WebGL itself isn't
particularly well DOM integrated, either, afaik, and I speak from the
knowledge that it is nearly mostly a JavaScript API.   Will that cause
issues with DOM integration?  Likely.

John

On Jul 8, 2017 11:51 PM, "John Carlson" <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Leonard writes:
>
> >X3D in all public releases of the standard is not DOM integrated. There
> are no public documents that explicitly show how a future generation of X3D
> would be DOM integrated. That may happen in the future, but that has been
> worked on without public results for over three years.
>
>
>
> I have some questions.  What are the requirements for being DOM
> integrated? Which DOM do you refer to? Isn’t DOM more of a language or
> library feature rather than a potential X3D feature?  Is it merely that X3D
> Scripts support DOM?  I have loaded DOM into both Cobweb and X3DOM, without
> the need for many complex extensions, just a DOM producer and JQuery or
> interfaces to the browser ($(selector).append () line 405 of
> https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/node/
> loaderJQuery.js  for X3DOM, importDocument() line 205 of
> https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/node/
> loaderJQuery.js  for Cobweb).
>
>
>
> By using DOM, you can get DOM events, however, I think what you are saying
> is that Cobweb and X3DOM scenegraphs are not DOM event integrated.  I can
> see that.
>
>
>
> If we want the X3D scenegraph integrated with the DOM events, that will
> likely take a lot of work, which I believe Leonard is the only brave soul
> doing—I have been off generating events from JavaScript. However, I would
> warn him that it’s likely that the THREE.js scenegraph isn’t DOM integrated
> either, but likely he knows the answer to this better than I do.
>
>
>
> Will we ever see a scenegraph integrated with the DOM events? Isn’t that
> the goal?
>
>
>
> Perhaps the best approach to DOM integration is to try it OUTSIDE the web
> environment first.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
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