[x3d-public] Generating 3D complex narrative; statistics on X3D or XML files

[Leonard Daly]

John,

A movie is not just a script and a symphony is not just melody. There is 
a craft component to all of those which could be supported by some AI, 
but the real artistry is not in AI, but particular insights that the 
director, composer, author, painter, etc. bring and implement in the work.

Any AI developed artwork would (IMO) either seem too trite because the 
AI system could only use previously developed material, or too 
far-fetched because the randomness added by the AI system would end up 
putting the material in the uncanny valley.

Anyone doing original programming (using Excel, Blender, vim, or TECO) 
is already a creative person. If you wish to express your creativity in 
other means; study up on the expression techniques for those other 
media, or partner with someone who already knows that. It's much more 
efficient and produces are greater result.

Leonard Daly




> Leonard, it follows along the lines of me wanting to write games with 
> just the instructions or film a movie with just the script, or a score 
> just by humming.  Since I am a programmer and not an artist, I would 
> like to have the computer as an assistive device to do these things.   
> However, I would like the computer to do most of the heavy lifting, by 
> adding most of the resources and artistry.
>
> In other words, I need the computer to amplify my minimal artistry—my 
> talent lies in mathematics and coding.
>
> I know I could use the real world with the right technology, and 
> perhaps that is what I should do.   What software is there for the 
> iPhone for bringing the real world into the X3D web?   Can I record 
> movies and easily incorporate them into 3d worlds?  I really haven’t 
> used many tools beyond blender.   I’m a vim kinda guy, I’ve never 
> really advanced into the IDE world even though I wrote a programming 
> by demonstration environment.
>
> I am crippled by my choice of tool it seems, just like some people are 
> stuck in excel.
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 12:45 PM Leonard Daly 
> <Leonard.Daly at realism.com <mailto:Leonard.Daly at realism.com>> wrote:
>
>     John,
>
>     Somehow I am missing your motivation to asking these questions. It
>     would help me understand these questions, their implications, and
>     what possible answers might be if I understood more of what is
>     causing you to think along these lines and ask questions.
>
>     Leonard Daly
>
>
>>     What are various approaches to generating 3D complex narrative
>>     worlds?   There’s schema based, procedurally generated.  Would a
>>     chaotic or quantum generator of 3D worlds be possible?  Do we
>>     come up with the narrative first, then input it into a neural
>>     network to convert to XML?  What’s the best way to generate
>>     narrative at this point? Should we approach it with text first,
>>     and then do something like XtraNormal did to produce animation?
>>
>>     May I present that X3D 4.1 include complex (real and
>>     imaginary-virtual) narrative components.  Perhaps we could
>>     introduce chaos in the physics component if not already there.  
>>     An quantum too.
>>
>>     I’m really working on creating more realistic test data.
>>
>>     Should we attach appearance frequency to the schema? Other ideas?
>>
>>     Has anyone done analysis on XML artifacts and can provide code or
>>     statistics on artifacts? Thanks!  I am thinking of some
>>     hierarchical statistics structure I don’t know of. Could we
>>     provide statistics from within X3DJSAIL or an add-on?
>>
>>     I am thinking that we could incorporate some of Alexander’s
>>     Nature of Order in the placement of features.
>>
>>     Has anyone else thought on these topics?   What do spatiotemporal
>>     databases allow you to do?
>>
>>     Will X3D 4.1 reduce the need for virtual worlds?
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     John
>>
>>
>>
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>     *Leonard Daly*
>     3D Systems & Cloud Consultant
>     LA ACM SIGGRAPH Past Chair
>     President, Daly Realism - /Creating the Future/
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*Leonard Daly*
3D Systems & Cloud Consultant
LA ACM SIGGRAPH Past Chair
President, Daly Realism - /Creating the Future/
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