[x3d-public] Is there even a *case* for client-side 3D at all??

[Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)]

Thanks for your post, sincerely appreciated.  As ever this is a pretty passionate community, even when only a few folks sound off!

It is easy for many people to misconstrue advertising dollars and matching marketing as the only 3D game in town.

Because we are so careful and deliberate and guided by the open Web3D process... yes I think X3D is doomed.  Doomed... Doomed to steadily improve, doomed to work in any Web browser and elsewhere, doomed to take full advantage of other Web standards, and doomed to publish durable interoperable stable archival reusable interactive 3D, including all of the working models we have still for 22 years and counting.  What can we possibly be thinking?

Also sincere thanks for the liquidsky link, which shows that some business models never go out of style.  i especially enjoyed the classic refrain:

	Gamers
	Something Big Is Coming...
	Stay tuned for details

Have fun with X3D!  8)


On 4/27/2019 10:05 AM, iam here wrote:
> Hi,
> I've posted to this list before, I'm a newbie to X3D and have been (off and on) trying to get to grips with it. However, as yall may be familiar with, Google has announced the upcoming launch of their streaming gaming service, Stadia, while MS has something called xCloud. So, what I'm wondering about is, after the advent of things like this, with God knows how much power available on the server-side, *is there even a case* for things like X3D, where the number crunching will be done on the CLIENT??
> It all boils down to how many folks have high-end horsepower in their homes, and how many do not, and I can safely say that here, in my country, there are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people who don't have say, a spanking Nvidia 2080 on their tables at home! But I don't have hard data on the overall situation, the *worldwide* scenario.... (btw, *data* here is dirt cheap, in case anyone wondered.)
> 
> What's the consensus *here*, on this list? I have great respect for what you guys *DID* with X3D, but....if there's no case for actually *using* it because it gets obsoleted by the likes of Stadia, then....it'll be a sad day, I guess. Of course we don't know what Google's *pricing* will be, but....that's hardly a lifeline. Also, these are not the only 2 there are - check something like *this*: www.liquidsky.com <http://www.liquidsky.com> , which looks pretty nice.
> 
> So - is X3D doomed? :(


all the best, Don
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