[x3d-public] Experience with conversions.

[Michalis Kamburelis]

To be clear, view3dscene and tovrmlx3d can convert between encodings
in both directions, classic->XML and XML->classic.

And, as Don said, all X3D capabilities (including skinned animation)
are the same in all encodings, and should be preserved by all
convertions.

If there's any problem, please do send a testcase to reproduce. We've
had a few testcases recently, and from what I can tell we resolved all
threads -- in particular pointing some issues in models not conforming
to spec.

Regards,
Michalis

czw., 13 lip 2023 o 03:59 John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> napisał(a):
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> I’m also looking for new versions of view3dscene, will google, then discord.
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> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:41 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <brutzman at nps.edu> wrote:
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>> John, to ensure there is no unintended misunderstanding:  X3D is designed and specified so that it might work equivalently across all file encodings, programming languages, operating systems, and presentation platforms.
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>> “Are we there yet?” well I guess not, but it does feel like we are steadily improving, especially with finalization of X3D 4 Architecture providing a common functional definition throughout.
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>> So all successes are compliance, and all gaps are therefore either erroneous model content or else incomplete implementations. Quality assurance (QA) efforts continue.
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>> X3D Resources: Quality Assurance (QA)
>> https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dResources.html#QualityAssurance
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>> Onward we go.  Have fun with X3D!   8)
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>> all the best, Don
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>> --
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>> Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br        brutzman at nps.edu
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>> Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA    +1.831.656.2149
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>> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman
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>> From: x3d-public <x3d-public-bounces at web3d.org> On Behalf Of John Carlson
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 2:13 PM
>> To: X3D Graphics public mailing list <x3d-public at web3d.org>
>> Subject: Re: [x3d-public] Experience with conversions.
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>> I believe the old X3DV (original) does not do skinned animations, but the Classic VRML as created by Michalis does work, AFAICT.  XML no.   So you have to go VRML -> XML -> VRML to get a working model in X_ITE. I think this is due to the DEF/USE misordering.
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>> John
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>> On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:11 AM John Carlson <yottzumm at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> tovrmlx3d.exe does XML => Classic VRML
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>> x3d-tidy does Classic VRML => XML (but no skin animation?, VRML in X_ITE works great!)
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>> YMMV.
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>> Praise to everyone as I now have working XML and X3DV!
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>> John
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