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color:windowtext'> Dave [mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 11, 2009
2:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Russ Kinter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> x3d-public@web3d.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [X3D-Public] Remove
dynamically added scenes</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:
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color:windowtext'> Dave [<a href="mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com">mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com</a>]
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 11, 2009
2:37 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Russ Kinter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Barry Nauta'; <a
href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [X3D-Public] Remove
dynamically added scenes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Russ Kinter wrote: <u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send=true>x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send=true>mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Barry Nauta<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 11, 2009
2:22 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Dave<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send=true>x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [X3D-Public] Remove
dynamically added scenes</span></font><u4:p></u4:p><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have been playing with
LOD, but that is not a viable solution.<br>
<br>
The initial buildings are boxes, because the hires versions are heavy, varying
from a 100k to 300k per building. LOD preloads the different scenes, which
would be unworkable.<br>
<br>
The only player that really works for me is Vivaty. Octaga simply doesn't load
and BitManagement doesn't support the SAI...<br>
<br>
Barry<u4:p></u4:p><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>[Russ Kinter] Off the top of my head have
you tried to Inline Node as the LOD level (or Switch choice)?<u4:p></u4:p></span></font></i></b><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;
font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>You could then dynamically change the url
of the Inline Node.</span></font></i></b><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>That might now work with Vivaty. I remember trying
that a couple years ago anyway. What you hope for is,<br>
changing the url will load the scene right then, and clearing the url will
unload it. I would not bet on it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-style:italic'>[Russ Kinter] Well if it doesn’t, he could make the
Inline Node a child of a Group Node and use removeChildren<u8:p></u8:p></span></font></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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using Browser.createVrlm(oops!)FromString.<u8:p></u8:p></span></font></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yeah, that's what the 'smart inline' protos do. Or create...FromURL.
Still keep an eye on memory, make sure it goes<br>
down when 'remove' is done. I'm pretty sure that will work in <span
class=SpellE>Vivaty</span>.</span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>[Russ Kinter] Not to make things
overly complex for Barry, but if the memory leaks are still there, since he is
using SAI, couldn’t he pre-write the scene graph changes and tell the
html browser to reload the root world <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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usually clears memory in my experience) and then add the new changes once the root
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