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Dave [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com">mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com</a>] <br>
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style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 11,
2009
2:52 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Russ Kinter<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[X3D-Public] Remove
dynamically added scenes</span></font><font color="black"><span
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[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com">mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com</a>]
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
November 11, 2009
2:37 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Russ Kinter<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'Barry Nauta'; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[X3D-Public] Remove
dynamically added scenes</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Russ Kinter wrote: <u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> <a
href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send="true">x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Barry
Nauta<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
November 11, 2009
2:22 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Dave<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send="true">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[X3D-Public] Remove
dynamically added scenes</span></font><u4:p></u4:p><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I have
been playing with
LOD, but that is not a viable solution.<br>
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The initial buildings are boxes, because the hires versions are heavy,
varying
from a 100k to 300k per building. LOD preloads the different scenes,
which
would be unworkable.<br>
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The only player that really works for me is Vivaty. Octaga simply
doesn't load
and BitManagement doesn't support the SAI...<br>
<br>
Barry<u4:p></u4:p><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">[Russ
Kinter] Off the top of my head have
you tried to Inline Node as the LOD level (or Switch choice)?<u4:p></u4:p></span></font></i></b><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">You
could then dynamically change the url
of the Inline Node.</span></font></i></b><u8:p></u8:p><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">That might now work with
Vivaty. I remember trying
that a couple years ago anyway. What you hope for is,<br>
changing the url will load the scene right then, and clearing the url
will
unload it. I would not bet on it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">[Russ
Kinter] Well if it doesn’t, he could make the
Inline Node a child of a Group Node and use removeChildren<u8:p></u8:p></span></font></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">to
get rid of the old one and addChildren for a new one
using Browser.createVrlm(oops!)FromString.<u8:p></u8:p></span></font></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Yeah, that's what the 'smart
inline' protos do. Or create...FromURL.
Still keep an eye on memory, make sure it goes<br>
down when 'remove' is done. I'm pretty sure that will work in <span
class="SpellE">Vivaty</span>.</span></font><font color="navy"><span
style="color: navy;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">[Russ
Kinter] Not to make things
overly complex for Barry, but if the memory leaks are still there,
since he is
using SAI, couldn’t he pre-write the scene graph changes and tell the
html browser to reload the root world <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></p>
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face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">(<span
class="GramE">this</span>
usually clears memory in my experience) and then add the new changes
once the root
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[DA]Yes, as a last-resort, but it's very jarring to reload everything.
So much nicer when things just happen right there.<br>
Even nicer if you rack the transparency of all incoming materials, so
it 'fades in', but that's just showmanship.<br>
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