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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Could be. On the other hand an audio
input node is useful and expressive but the current 3D audio nodes haven’t
be fully explored. There are a couple of reasons:</span></font></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Audio scripting nodes in to
sequences and interactively triggered combos mixed with environmental
sounds is a lot of work. Gamers do it but with big teams.</span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Games subordinate sound to game
play naturally. Good for gamers but unlikely to attract A-listers
who are composers first and/or uninterested in game commissions.</span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Because of the poverties of the
web, sound takes a back seat to textures every time in the bandwidth
budget. A-listers know that even mp3s (a godsend to the rest of us)
sonically suck.</span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Some things may be changing:</span></font></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Producers are increasingly
unsatisfied with the mp3 and digital sound in general. Further,
because the RIAA production standards that once made vinyl a level playing
field haven’t been replicated in digital a producer can work for
months to get a sound only to have a kid in a CD replication plan twist
one knob and destroy it. As a result producers such as </span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Henry
Burnett</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> (aka, T-Bone) have developed new standard techniques
(see CODE system). This is resulting in unheard of digital
quality production. Burnett says simultaneous releases in
multiple formats such as CODE enables are now a commercial reality
and a competitive requirement. That may be the middle road for
the 3D audio producers who want to work with the A-list.</span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The IP problem remains but the
A-listers are not quite the greedy ghouls they’ve been made to
be. They see the reality of the web as distribution and know
that per copy revenue isn’t going to produce the profits they once
did. They know they have to diversify and they are they don’t
like the lawsuits. A group in </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Britain</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> signed
a letter of protest to the British government over a proposal to go after
the internet access of individuals who file swap. Industrialists
doing it are one thing but chasing the fans is just stupid.
They are looking for a way to make the system fair for all concerned
again.</span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>As I’ve said here often,
new art forms are rare. The 3D virtual reality music albums are
that. That intrigues them. Our problem as I said
is our industry is mired in games and the amateurs such as myself who
experiment with these concepts can’t go far enough.</span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Access to capital is the problem for all
concerned. Yet the A-listers can do that. It seems to me that
we may soon want to meet in the middle. When a major 3D company using
language standards can get the penetration and works with A-list producers and
musicians, we’ll see a change.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>len</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Dave
[mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 22, 2009
12:12 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Len Bullard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'Keith Victor';
x3d-public@web3d.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [X3D-Public] X3D
Music Video</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Didn't Cortona also have
some sorta audio input node?<br>
<br>
Len Bullard wrote: </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>First I apologize for
getting the names wrong, Keith. My eyes ain’t what they used to
be. Maurio was what I read on the original set.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I used the version from
the tutorial which did originally use the AudioSensor and that song, but for
this video, I let it run in Vivaty Player. Also note the instruments were
gone because I think those were extrusions.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I still say kits of such
models with some easy to construct templates would be a great way for the
Can’tAffordTheBigVideo bands to take tools like Jing, a movie editor and
put together YouTube vids. It’s such an easy concept and with
the very low costs and just a bit of tutoring, they can do it.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks again for the
models. I had this sitting around from the tutorial and thought, what the
heck, might as well make another Tuber. It’s a shame the mp4 format
crunches the res and color the way it does. In the original 75mb wmv, it
looks fabulous.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ummm… I
haven’t played with the Flash Vivaty player yet. Anyone out there
tried it? What sort of interactivity does it support?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>len</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Keith Victor [<a
href="mailto:keithrvictor@gmail.com">mailto:keithrvictor@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 21, 2009
9:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Len Bullard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Alan Hudson; <a
href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [X3D-Public] X3D
Music Video</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Thanks Len!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Good to see the tools and
content put to good use!</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I put the original
version of this together a couple of years ago. The avatars, animations,
and drumset were created by Victoria Turri ( GammonBrat, and the late Maurio
Turri's Wife ).</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I implemented and used a
custom Node, AudioSensor, to trigger the animations based on beat detection and
frequency distribution. Did you use the Flux AudioSensor in your
version? If not, are the animations in sync with the music?</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Attached is a screen shot
of the original version. You can see the frequency distribution animating
in the background.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Unfortunately, the
AudioSensor no longer works in the Vivaty Player. Works fine in the
old Flux Player. What player did you use?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Cheers;</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Keith Victor
( not Kevin )</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Vivaty, Inc.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at
11:37 AM, Len Bullard <<a href="mailto:cbullard@hiwaay.net"
moz-do-not-send=true>cbullard@hiwaay.net</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In the interactive
version, sure. Those are the canned movements from the<br>
VivatyStudio library with some modifications, screen shot with Jing and<br>
edited together in Sony Vegas. For real-time, I'd add a lock control so<br>
the viewer could sit back and watch or take control of the camera.<br>
Originally it was a tutorial for demonstrating how to control the music<br>
selections, volume etc. from the HTML wrapper page. OTOH, YouTube is
radio<br>
these days so why not screen capture and go with it.<br>
<br>
For virtual reality albums, ROL is still a better realization. I had a<br>
chance to discuss that concept with an A-list movie music producer recently.<br>
Game people approach him and he wasn't interested. When I explained the<br>
potentials of 3D real-time audio he was intrigued. I think too often the<br>
gamers go after these folks as subcontractors to their own work and don't<br>
understand that these folks are composers looking for ways to expand their<br>
own art. A key concept for the future of most media is the ability to<br>
release simultaneously in multiple formats and cost points.<br>
<br>
We still have to come to a respectful consensus on copyrights, mash ups etc.<br>
The A-list artists get that more than some realize and are looking to do the<br>
right thing for all concerned.<br>
</span></font><font color="#888888"><span style='color:#888888'><br>
len</span></font></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Alan Hudson [mailto:<a href="mailto:giles@yumetech.com"
moz-do-not-send=true>giles@yumetech.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:11 AM<br>
To: Len Bullard<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" moz-do-not-send=true>x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [X3D-Public] X3D Music Video<br>
<br>
Len Bullard wrote:<br>
> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3s1jOoI0yg" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send=true>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3s1jOoI0yg</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> X3D music video. Dirt cheap. Thanks to Tony Parisi, Kevin
Victor and<br>
> Maurio Turri.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I screen captured the tutorial for the music sequencer. I'm
surprised<br>
more<br>
> bands don't do this. The only problem is the color/rez takes a
beating.<br>
><br>
<br>
that was really cool.<br>
<br>
If someone was running it interactively would you want them to be able<br>
to control the camera? Ie I liked the camera movements starting towards<br>
the middle. But I'm not certain if the user had camera control they<br>
would get the same experience.<br>
<br>
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