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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I had twenty million, I would. You
need enough capital that everyone eats while you get momentum. Say
what you like about location independent teams, to get it done fast,
imaginative and bug free, I want the team all in the same building 9 to 5x5.
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Normal</span></font><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> lives
but intense at work. Keeps the team healthy. It’s
expensive, but IME, 50 per cent of success is shared imagination and it’s
good to be in the same room when conjuring that if you want your schedules to
hold.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With X3D, both the animation in native
form and the mp4 run on the web. </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The chasm or opportunity uncrossed is for
the cost of load time, an X3D real time animation is still richer in palette and
interactivity. And it hosts the same external media types.
The difference is in composition down to sequences where the sequences are
zero-fault in rendering. The mp4 may vary by board but in the
practical case set, completely reliable.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I had to manage the evolution of that,
I’d complete the path to the mp4 first; provide a we only guarantee it on
this download plugin only later. and be sure everything is ready to go when 3D
is native to the browser itself. Compile Flash if you
must. MP4 format is a fixed format. Save out to as many
of these as you can most particularly, wmv. </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The problem of world building is
attempting to create a social network centered in the world. People
won’t invest that much time in getting status updates, the essential FB
message type. They will consume each other’s media postings.
So before we dive back into the rabbit hole of X3D Being The Web, be fit in the
status updates space. As I said, a reader that consumes and renders
status updates is easy. All that will work.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So then you’re left with the artist’s
wing. Some group builds a lot of compelling avatars and
scenes. Most of that exists out there for any company that wants to
spec the licensing and technical package deliverables. Here you don’t
write standards; you spec/contract the parts you need.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>len</span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Dave A
[mailto:dave@realmofconcepts.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 05, 2010
9:47 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Len Bullard<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'John Carlson'; 'X3D Graphics
public mailing list'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [X3D-Public]
XTranormal X3D</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>FWIW: Vivaty could have
done this, the ideas were certainly on the table and technology available, but
the company went in, well, a different direction. Too bad.<br>
Well, if you got about 10 million and want to get it done, maybe we can get the
band back together.<br>
<br>
Dave A<br>
<br>
On 12/5/2010 4:44 PM, Len Bullard wrote: </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Not for us.
It isn’t product OR standard but product and standards because we can do
more with both than just one. The trade off here is business size by
limiting access to the engine files (ie, hook them on an editor and don’t
give them an export out) or use the fact of the standard to come up with
companies that don’t compete by making all of the system but companies
that make competing pieces, character editor vs character editor, audio editor
vs audio editor.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>De facto, that is what
exist now. It’s parts polyglot. In one way that enables
quick evolution. In another, it fragments the market. </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>XTranormal goes around
that. It is a company providing not all of those parts, but the
basic animation concepts in a library of content parts. They sell
scenes, characters, voices, behaviors. They make them popular
figures so you can put words in their mouths. Oh the joy of modern
stardom…. </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The XTranormals are fun and
quick to make, and are not more than ten percent harder than the average
Facebook entry to make. They only have to replace the avatar/photo with a
character. A default style set for initialization does the rest.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The trick with the
standard is the author shouldn’t see it. The format and
engine are built into the social network as savvy socially sensitive
renderers. How many namespaces do you want to exchange is the tough
question here and how many would you have to exchange to exchange the full range
of information in an XTranormal? How many namespaces make up a
scene?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This really comes down to
tool over text. A script, a one two n actor scene (eg, one
film), voices (the way to get complex here is filtering; that’s ok as
long as the basic set that you give away JUST WORKS. Drag and drop and
type.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The reason to use the
standard is the bang by the n of sets you can exchange determines the utility
of each component of a type. Ie, it’s nice if the script runs in
all implementations. So the competition comes down to who writes
the best composition system. They win. So far,
XTranormal. It kicks out mp4s.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Some think about X3D
files for real-time animation. Very good but also good for
sampling. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In an animation, that is
a set of real time or scheduled access to sequencers. In a movie,
those are mp4s. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>MP4s are very
reusable. It’s a very different editing space because it is
audio, video, image, composites, effects for audio and video and direct
access to an audio editor. All but the meshes and mesh engines,
IOW, an integrated movie mixing suite. Once rendered down to AV,
you can split, splice cut and otherwise harvest a lot of image
sequences. Once you have access to the temporal address, it’s
a dimension above because that enables the slicing into even more finely
reusable sequences to the n of the number of integratible components.
Remember, audio and video are separable parts. Punch. Punch. Punch.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now… it’s all
very neat but the cannot bottom line happen is this: for any number more
than one in ten should the editing system fail. In XTranormal, some
sounds such as the chime corrupt the file. Since there is no backup past
publication, the entire piece is lost. Oopsie.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You can’t do
that. Content lost is irretrievable even if it can be recreated from
memory. A Save without backup is a clusterPlucker waiting to happen.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>len</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org">x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a> [<a
href="mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org">mailto:x3d-public-bounces@web3d.org</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Carlson<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, December 05, 2010
6:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> X3D Graphics public mailing
list<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [X3D-Public]
XTranormal X3D</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Isn't "The
Sims" good enough for doing 3D Worlds? Look at what
"Spore" does for avatars. The trick is that these are
applications, not standards.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Check this out this 3D
authoring tool (Kinect based) for ideas: <a
href="http://vimeo.com/16818988" moz-do-not-send=true>http://vimeo.com/16818988</a></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>John</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:58
PM, Len Bullard wrote:</span></font></p>
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1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When will someone
do for X3D worlds what XTranormal does for videos?</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I worked on HumanML
hoping someone would make that happen but it didn’t. It became too
many things to too many people.</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br>
Is it really that hard? XTranormal has approximately 1.6 million
projects, series, all from a simple drag and drop text interface.</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It is said the
power of HTML is view source, but really, it is text you CAN type.
XTranormal simplified to the basics and it works.</span></font></p>
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