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btw.: the EventStreamSensor {} (aka Network Sensor) of BS Contact works quite well.<br /><br />OK, it is not standardized (yet), I think thats what you mean?<br /><br />-------- Original-Nachricht --------<br /><blockquote type="cite">
<p>Datum: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:13:09 -0500<br />Von: "Russ Kinter" <pyth7@verizon.net><br />An: "'Christoph Valentin'" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at><br />CC: x3d-public@web3d.org<br />Betreff: RE: [X3D-Public] XMPP / XML schema JScript ( Networksensor )<br /><br /></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></strong><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Christoph Valentin [mailto:<a href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de1918943300.1353269195.69401ee&to=christoph.valentin%40gmx.at">christoph.valentin@gmx.at]</a> <br /><strong><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></strong> Sunday, November 18, 2012 12:24 PM<br /><strong><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></strong> <a href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de1918943300.1353269195.69401ee&to=pyth7%40verizon.net">pyth7@verizon.net</a><br /><strong><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></strong> <a href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de1918943300.1353269195.69401ee&to=x3d-public%40web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br /><strong><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></strong> Re: [X3D-Public] XMPP / XML schema JScript ( Networksensor )</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi Russ,<br /><br /> I think, I have explained that in an earlier e-mail.<br /><br /> It is a matter of interests and it is a matter of budgets.<br /><br /> And it is a matter of time. I'm still full of hope (to come back to Star Wars :-) )<br /><br /> Kind regards<br /> Christoph<br /><br style="" /><br style="" /></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">-------- Original-Nachricht --------<br /> Datum: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:16:16 -0600 (CST)<br /> Von: <a href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de1918943300.1353269195.69401ee&to=pyth7%40verizon.net">pyth7@verizon.net</a><br /> An: <a href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de1918943300.1353269195.69401ee&to=christoph.valentin%40gmx.at">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a><br /> CC: <a href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de1918943300.1353269195.69401ee&to=x3d-public%40web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br /> Betreff: Re: Re: RE: Re: [X3D-Public] XMPP / XML schema JScript ( Networksensor )</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" face="Arial" color="black"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Hi Russ<br /><br /> Just one thought:<br /><br /> Internet started its marvellous success story also, because the IP stack was "buried" in the operating system.<br /><br /> It's just a conclusion by analogy and I don't have a proof that it works.<br /><br /> But I think, when we do not build the networking "on top" of the Web3D Browsers, but "bury" the networking in the standards, then the success will be greater.<br /><br /> All the best<br /> Christoph<br style="" /><br style="" /></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="1" face="Arial" color="black"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">-------- Original-Nachricht --------<br /> Datum: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:57:54 -0600 (CST)<br /> Von: <a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de665948167.1353258791.534551ad&to=pyth7%40verizon.net">pyth7@verizon.net</a><br /> An: <a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de665948167.1353258791.534551ad&to=Sven-Erik.Tiberg%40ltu.se">Sven-Erik.Tiberg@ltu.se</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de665948167.1353258791.534551ad&to=pyth7%40verizon.net">pyth7@verizon.net</a>, <a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de665948167.1353258791.534551ad&to=christoph.valentin%40gmx.at">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a><br /> CC: <a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de665948167.1353258791.534551ad&to=x3d-public%40web3d.org">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br /> Betreff: Re: RE: Re: [X3D-Public] XMPP / XML schema JScript ( Networksensor )</span></font></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Tahoma" color="black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black">Hi pyth7<br /><br /> Mybee you are right on it's a "Walking dead" <br /> But way alternative can you come up with on a open source network protocol suited multi X3D nodes and non X3D nodes like CarSim interfacing Mathworks Simulink.<br /> Togther forming a driver simulator.<br /> I'm just go 2 groups of students readdy to make this happend.<br /> Can be a option to in RT transfere positions, rotation,,,, and live video to handle a model car.<br /> An area of applications for this projeare are supporting car testing under arctic conditions.<br /><br /> So please tell me any optional protocol to use before we put more effort into usiing RT-XMPP for X3D space and Matworks / Simulink MU system.<br /><br /> /Sven-Erik Tiberg<br style="" /><br style="" /></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" face="Arial" color="black"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Hi Sven-Erik<br /><br /> So, when it's about the Network Sensor, we had a discussion about evolution of the Network Sensor concept.<br /><br /> This was during January through March 2011, in the thread "The Network Sensor is not enough".<br /><br /> Original e-mail was this: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2011-January/001401.html">http://www.web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2011-January/001401.html</a><br /><br /> All the best<br /> Christoph<br /><br /><br /> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br /> Gesendet: Thursday, 25 October 2012 um 16:28:08 Uhr<br /> Von: "Don Brutzman" <<a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de2010906145.1353255432.32f3f8b&to=brutzman%40nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>><br /> An: "Sven-Erik Tiberg" <<a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de2010906145.1353255432.32f3f8b&to=Sven-Erik.Tiberg%40ltu.se">Sven-Erik.Tiberg@ltu.se</a>><br /> Betreff: Re: [X3D-Public] XMPP / XML schema JScript ( Networksensor )<br /> On 10/22/2012 10:16 AM, Sven-Erik Tiberg wrote:<br /> > Hi<br /> > <br /> > Some time ago it was a tread regarding interfacing jscript to x3d scenes with suggestions for Node name suggestions for routing.<br /> > <br /> > Seems to remember that there are a suggestion for a group working with making a Networksensor similar interface for JScript / Python.<br /> > <br /> > Any tips on these items?<br /><br /> Hi Sven-Erik<br /><br /> High-water mark for the NetworkSensor node effort is maintained in the X3D Basic Examples under Networking.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Networking">http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Networking</a><br /><br /> This directory documents attempts to define and build a new NetworkSensor node for X3D. Although useful design progress was made by the X3D working group, this work did not reach closure because author-written implementations did not appear to be possible using X3D prototypes. Further implementation and evaluation work might someday be pursued using an X3D browser implementation.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Networking/NetworkSensorConnectionNodes.html">http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/Networking/NetworkSensorConnectionNodes.html</a> (attached)<br /><br /> Examples of additional networking techniques for X3D can also be added to this archive. Of related interest: the Distributed Interactive Simulation (DIS) examples in this archive, which include native X3D support for the IEEE Distributed Interactive Simulation (DIS) networking-protocol standard.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/DistributedInteractiveSimulation">http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/DistributedInteractiveSimulation</a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Interactive_Simulation">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Interactive_Simulation</a><br /><br /> all the best, Don<br /> -- <br /> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de2010906145.1353255432.32f3f8b&to=brutzman%40nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br /> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, MontereyCA93943-5000USA +1.831.656.2149<br /> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics <a target="_blank" href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman">http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><br /> _______________________________________________<br /> X3D-Public mailing list<br /><a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de2010906145.1353255432.32f3f8b&to=X3D-Public%40web3d.org">X3D-Public@web3d.org</a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a><br /><br /> _______________________________________________<br /> X3D-Public mailing list<br /><a target="_blank" href="https://service.gmx.net/de/cgi/g.fcgi/mail/new?CUSTOMERNO=28383878&t=de2010906145.1353255432.32f3f8b&to=X3D-Public%40web3d.org">X3D-Public@web3d.org</a><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a></span></font></p>
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