<html><head></head><body><div style="font-family: Verdana;font-size: 12.0px;"><div><div>:-)<br/></div><div><br/></div><div>Austria bashing :-)<br/></div><div><br/></div><div>fortunately I'm a kind of masochist :-P<br/></div><div><br/></div><div>Sorry for disturbing you, but it is too funny........<br/>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 08. März 2013 um 18:54 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> dumenieualainorange <dumenieualain@orange.fr><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.peter.valentin@gmx.at><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Aw: Re: future of simulrr.sourceforge.net
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I wanted since ages , to post on your sourceforge
"blog" </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">not because I am egotist, LOL , but to contribute
there in public..</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes pleaseee , copy my
"ideas"</font> <font face="Arial" size="2">, because I would live to have
BScollaborate running from somewhere :)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">even from Austria ..lol </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">( just poor joke :)</font></div>
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<a href="christoph.peter.valentin@gmx.at" target="_parent" title="christoph.peter.valentin@gmx.at">Christoph Valentin</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10.0pt arial;"><b>To:</b> <a href="dumenieualain@orange.fr" target="_parent" title="dumenieualain@orange.fr">dumenieualainorange</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10.0pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 08, 2013 6:46
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<div style="FONT: 10.0pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> Fw: Aw: Re: future of
simulrr.sourceforge.net</div>
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<div>One small question: may I forward this mail to X3D-public :-)<br/></div>
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<div>I would enjoy it :)<br/><br/></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 08. März 2013
um 17:13 Uhr<br/><b>Von:</b> <a href="christoph.valentin@gmx.at" target="_parent">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a><br/><b>An:</b> dumenieualainorange
<<a href="dumenieualain@orange.fr" target="_parent">dumenieualain@orange.fr</a>><br/><b>Cc:</b> <a href="Sven-Erik.Tiberg@ltu.se" target="_parent">Sven-Erik.Tiberg@ltu.se</a><br/><b>Betreff:</b> Aw:
Re: future of simulrr.sourceforge.net <br/></div>
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<div>Dear Alain<br/></div>
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<div>I will try to continue. But first let me consult my friends and my
wife.<br/></div>
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<div>I have got postive feed back from Sven-Erik Tiberg about option
C).<br/></div>
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<div>So you give me positive feed back about option B).<br/></div>
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<div>If we go for option B), then I will send a mail to X3D-public, asking if
there is somebody out there, who already runs BS Collaborate 1.307 on a public
server. I guess, it could really be possible somebody like this already
exists.<br/></div>
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<div>I remember I have read in some technical description of BS Collaborate
that this server supports splitting the traffic to independent "chat
rooms".<br/></div>
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<div>So, even if the server costs 20.000 EUR, it could be possible that there
is somebody out there, where we can rent a BS Collaborate "chat room" for lets
say 5-10 people for let's say 50 EUR/month. This would be
affordable.<br/></div>
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<div>I'm not a friend of running the test version of BS Collaborate illegally
on some public Windows machine 24/7.<br/></div>
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<div>And I'm not a friend of buying the BS Collaborate my self and becoming an
entrepreneur, who sells chat rooms to other people. This would not fit to my
personal psychological profile, even if the business case could pay
off.<br/></div>
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<div>All the best<br/></div>
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<div>Christoph<br/><br/></div>
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<div style="MARGIN: 0.0px 0.0px 10.0px;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 08. März 2013
um 16:03 Uhr<br/><b>Von:</b> dumenieualainorange
<dumenieualain@orange.fr><br/><b>An:</b> christoph.valentin@gmx.at<br/><b>Betreff:</b> Re:
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Dear Christoph,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">you know my opinion,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">but I re told you :</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">1 - You MUST continue with trains or not , srr or
smuos or both , LOL,</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">but you MUST continue !</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">2 You ( or some friend you have) must run BS
Collaborate on his server !</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">As I told you , my server is on Linux, so I cant
host BSCollaborate,witch is only windows...</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">but I wonder why you dont search a friend to have
your wonderfull tool running 24hx24.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">And anyways a server is not very
expensive...</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I cant understand , as you spend/spent hours on
your nice "hobby" , why you dont care to have it running on
web...</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Amicalement</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">alain</font></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10.0pt arial;BACKGROUND: rgb(228,228,228);"><b>From:</b> <a title="christoph.valentin@gmx.at">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a> </div>
<div style="FONT: 10.0pt arial;"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:50
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<div style="FONT: 10.0pt arial;"><b>Subject:</b> future of
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<div>Dear Friends of SrrTrains<br/><br/>The last pre-alpha version of the
SrrTrains project was released with the latest newsletter from
2013-03-02.<br/><br/>Now, in my humble opinion we have three options to
proceed.<br/><br/> A) Finally close the project, honouring all the fun
we had and enjoying the experiences we've had<br/> B) Continue playing
around and improve the experimental software bit by bit<br/> C) Try
going to get serious <br/><br/>I would be glad about feed back, before doing
the decision.<br/><br/>To explain a little bit more, what I mean, I have added
a more detailed description of the three options in the P.S. of this
newsletter.<br/><br/>Have a nice week<br/>Christoph<br/> <br/>P.S. Here is a
short description of the three options<br/><br/>A) Finally close the
project :-)))))<br/> Do the LAN Party #3 on
2013-03-26 and then think about something else<br/> <br/>B)
Continue playing around :-(((((<br/> The project will
always be based on the test version of BS Collaborate<br/>
The project will never reach alpha status<br/> Railway
features will be implemented bit by bit, thus increasing<br/></div>
<div> usability and applicability of the
SRR Framework and of the SRR Tools<br/><br/>C) Try going to get serious
:-|<br/>C.1) Start hibernation of project simulrr.sourceforge.net<br/>C.2)
Take the base module of the SRR Framework (only basic features for
"Simple<br/> Multiuser Online Scenes", no railway
features) from simulrr.sourceforge.net<br/> and start
a new project with it <br/>C.3) The new project shall be called
smuos.sourceforge.net (SMUOS = "Simple<br/> Multiuser
Online Scenes")<br/>C.4) Redesign the "Network Sensor API
Prototypes"<br/> -
SrrControlNs.x3d<br/> -
SrrConsoleDispatcherNs.x3d<br/> -
SrrControlKmNs.x3d<br/> -
SrrObjectBaseNs.x3d<br/> -
SrrObjectBaseAnimNs.x3d<br/> -
SrrSwitchANs.x3d<br/> -
SrrSwitchBNs.x3d<br/> -
SrrKeyContainerNs.x3d<br/> in a way, s o that they do
not use the "EventStreamSensor" (BS Collaborate)<br/>
any more, but now they shall use some Java classes embedded in
"Script"<br/> nodes.<br/>
These Java classes shall process the protocol with a central
server<br/> - in an experimental
way<br/> - in a way that shall be
compatible with XMPP API and with
<br/> EventStreamSensor
node, but it shall extend the
EventStreamSensor<br/>
by additional capabilities<br/> -
finally rendering useful prototypes for what I call "Mature
Network<br/> Sensor
(MNS)"<br/>C.5) optional: if SMUOS is satisfying --> merge SMUOS into
SIMULRR project<br/>C.6) continue simulrr.sourceforge.net (beyond
2017)<br/><br/></div>
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