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<div>Let me get back to this WebRTC issue. I have got a question, probably anybody on this list knows the answer, therefore I 'cc' to the list :-)</div>
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<div>WebRTC defines media plane and description of media plane (voice, video......)</div>
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<div>WebRTC leaves the signalling plane open to the application, as much as possible (jingle, SIP, ......)</div>
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<div>Now, a question from network perspective. When we talk about 3D MU scene, e.g. games, do we see the shared state of the scene (door open, door closed, velocity of car, .........) rather a part of the media plane or rather a part of the signalling plane??</div>
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<div>When seen as part of media plane, it would mean, WebRTC should feel responsible to define a standard, imho.</div>
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<div>What' the opinion of the Web3D community?</div>
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<div>Just asking</div>
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<div>Christoph</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 12. September 2013 um 15:21 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Cecile Muller" <newsletter@wildpeaks.fr><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> x3d-public@web3d.org<br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [X3D-Public] X3D multi-user VR and WebRTC</div>
<div name="quoted-content">Hi Cecile<br/>
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Thank you for this explanation. Now it's clear for a newbie like me :)<br/>
I hope you agree, when I cc your answer to x3d-public<br/>
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See you<br/>
Christoph<br/>
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P.S.: repeated due to problems with html format<br/>
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. September 2013 um 15:19 Uhr<br/>
Von: "Cecile Muller" <newsletter@wildpeaks.fr><br/>
An: "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at><br/>
Betreff: Re: Re: [X3D-Public] X3D multi-user VR and WebRTC<br/>
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Hi Christoph,<br/>
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I meant it in the sense that it would useful for the X3D specs to add support<br/>
for it given becoming a de facto standard for multiuser 3d (and could be used<br/>
with X3DOM if you write scripts accordingly).<br/>
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But you're right, you can safely ignore it if you're looking for<br/>
a pure X3D solution.<br/>
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See you,<br/>
Cecile<br/>
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2013/9/12 Christoph Valentin <christoph.valentin@gmx.at><br/>
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Hi Cecile<br/>
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Thank you for the information.<br/>
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Just to make it sure: I asked about X3D scenes and you are answering about WebGL. Isn't that a completely different approach?<br/>
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Best regards<br/>
Christoph<br/>
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. September 2013 um 12:07 Uhr<br/>
Von: "Cecile Muller" <newsletter@wildpeaks.fr[newsletter@wildpeaks.fr]><br/>
An: "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at[christoph.valentin@gmx.at]><br/>
Cc: "X3D Graphics public mailing list" <x3d-public@web3d.org[x3d-public@web3d.org]><br/>
Betreff: Re: [X3D-Public] X3D multi-user VR and WebRTC<br/>
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Hi Christoph,<br/>
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Yes it could have an effect: if you aimed to make a multiuser scene in WebGL today,<br/>
WebRTC is what you'd use for the multiuser part; that's the basis for things like<br/>
Photon Cloud (<a href="http://cloud.exitgames.com" target="_blank">http://cloud.exitgames.com</a>[<a href="http://cloud.exitgames.com" target="_blank">http://cloud.exitgames.com</a>]) or PeerJS (<a href="http://peerjs.com" target="_blank">http://peerjs.com</a>[<a href="http://peerjs.com" target="_blank">http://peerjs.com</a>]) for example.<br/>
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See you,<br/>
Cecile<br/>
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2013/9/12 Christoph Valentin <christoph.valentin@gmx.at[<a href="http://christoph.valent" target="_blank">http://christoph.valent</a>in@gmx.at]>Can this have an affect on X3D multiuser scenes?<br/>
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC</a>[<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC</a>]<br/>
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