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Below are the minutes from last week's working group. The next
meeting of the working group is tomorrow. I will be sending out an
agenda later today.<br>
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<pre style="text-align:center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">X3D Working Group Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre>
<pre style="text-align:center"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Wednesday, 2015-07-22<o:p></o:p></span></b></pre>
<pre><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></b></pre>
<pre><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></b></pre>
<pre><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"">Attendees:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Leonard Daly, Roy Walmsley, Dick Puk, Max Limper, William Glascoe, Don Brutzman, Anita Havele<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"">MIA:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif""><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Bitmanagement, Joe Williams, Nicholas Polys<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"">Excused: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">No one<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></pre>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Focus: <b
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">X3D
Futures for SIGGRAPH<o:p></o:p></b></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial">Meeting
started
at 8:05 (PDT)<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-tab-count:1">
</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times
New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Introductions
(All)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times
New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Spec
Status
(Dick)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l0 level2
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Diagram
showing spec
document relationships:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Chart with specification
relationships<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSpecificationRelationships.png">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSpecificationRelationships.png</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSpecificationRelationships.pdf">http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSpecificationRelationships.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l0 level2
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Editor’s
Meeting
Report on 19777-1 (ECMAScript Language Binding)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.2.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Processed
all
comments (Web3D and others)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.2.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Voted
to
recommend advancement to DIS based on availability of final
(DIS) text<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.2.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Final
text
based on responses on comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.2.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Do
not
expect any issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.2.5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Anticipate
completing
text work by the start of the SC-24<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times
New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Schedule
through
the September<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Topics
(tentative)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">29
July
2015 – SIGGRAPH Planning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">5
August 2015 – SIGGRAPH Planning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">11
August
2015, 3:30pm Room 504 (LACC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">19
August
2015 – SIGGRAPH Review, SC-24 preparation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">26
August
2015 – TBD (SC-24 meeting)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.6.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">2
September 2015 – X3D Futures (V3.4, V4.x, or any topic related
to future
specifications)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.7.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">9
September 2015 – TBD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.8.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">16
September
2015 – TBD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.9.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">23
September
2015 – TBD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">3.1.10.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">30
September
2015 – TBD<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times
New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">X3D
Futures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">4.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">SIGGRAPH
in 3- weeks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">4.1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Review
press
release – link from Anita<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">4.1.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Request
a
summary of accomplishments and plans from each of the WGs <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
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style="mso-list:Ignore">4.1.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">BOF
schedule:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.web3d.org/event/x3d-xroads-3d-web">http://www.web3d.org/event/x3d-xroads-3d-web</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Major
announcement on
X3D V4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">SRC
(binary geometry)
standard <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">4.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">X3D
V3.4 document
and/or functionality<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.85in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times
New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">X3D
V
4 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">A
number of
significant compatibility issues between X3D and X3DOM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l0 level2
lfo1;
tab-stops:list .75in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Pages
at URLs below
highlight differences between X3D and X3DOM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx">www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx</a></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><a
href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf">www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf</a></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><a
href="http://realism.com/x3d-tools/Specifications/comparison.php"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://realism.com/x3d-tools/Specifications/comparison.php">http://realism.com/x3d-tools/Specifications/comparison.php</a></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">NodeInventory
notes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.4.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The
EventUtilities
nodes exist as X3D V3 PROTO nodes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.4.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">‘required
for
Immersive Profile’: The HTML5 profile needs to be at least as
capable as
Immersive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.4.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">‘suggested
for
HTML5 profile’: HTML5 profile should be a superset of X3D V3
Immersive<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.4.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">‘not
yet
implemented’: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Fraunhofer
has
had sufficient turnover that there was a significant knowledge
loss.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.6.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">X3DOM
code
should be rewritten to improve internal structures<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.7.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Need
to
build external community <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.8.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">As
a
group we are trying to understand what problem are we trying to
solve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.8.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Is
it
to produce a highly optimized 3D display system<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.8.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Maximum
flexibility
to 3D system authors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.8.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Multiple
problems
and audiences<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.8.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Something
not
listed here<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.9.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">William
sent
a private message to some with information on the Strategy
Markup Language
for determining the participants and how their strategies align<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Perhaps
presenting
various HTML-orientated profile options would be useful<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">How
feature-rich
should the HTML profile be? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.55in;text-indent:-.55in;mso-list:l0 level5
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 2.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Is
it
sufficient to focus only on non-convenience geometry plus
appearance nodes
and use JavaScript to handle the interaction. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.55in;text-indent:-.55in;mso-list:l0 level5
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 2.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.1.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Are
animation
nodes needed?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.55in;text-indent:-.55in;mso-list:l0 level5
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 2.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.1.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Can
things
be done better by providing a JavaScript/DOM library (akin to
jQuery)
for manipulation of the X3D Scene instead of providing that
functionality
within X3D<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.55in;text-indent:-.55in;mso-list:l0 level5
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.1.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">How
many
authors do we lose if a more minimal approach is taken?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.55in;text-indent:-.55in;mso-list:l0 level5
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.1.5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">How
many
(non-X3D) content developers are turned off because X3D/HTML
appears to be
too large and/or intimidating?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">How
important
is size (total download)? Is this a function of the device
(desktop
vs. phone)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.10.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">How
important
is performance beyond a certain minimum?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.11.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Schedule<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.11.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">WG
has
used a target of Dec 2015 for delivery of a spec to ISO. Other
options
include:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.55in;text-indent:-.55in;mso-list:l0 level5
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 2.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.11.1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Delivery
to
public (not ISO) and spend ~6M to handle quality and conformance
issues<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.55in;text-indent:-.55in;mso-list:l0 level5
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.2.11.1.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Is
even
trying to get an ISO spec for Dec the correct thing to do? (How
do we
determine correct?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l0 level2
lfo1;
tab-stops:list .75in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Roy
has noted that
several of the nodes in X3DOM do not correctly implement all of
the required
fields. There are issues to decide whether conformance happens
prior, in-step,
or after the development of the spec.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l0 level2
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Need
to determine
which nodes (or classes or nodes) are to be present in X3D V4<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Requirements
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
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style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.1.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">X3D
as
a whole must support everything in X3D V3.3, except for nodes or
components
that are deprecated<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.1.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">End
result
must be implementable and have two implementations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.1.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">May
add
features and./or profiles that are needed, documented, and
implemented<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">A
new ‘HTML’ profile may overlap with existing profiles and
include nodes and./or
fields not in any existing profile.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">My
causes
for concern (not necessarily complete)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Script
node
name conflict<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">DOM
Namespaces
(includes need for IMPORT/EXPORT)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">DOM/X3D
interaction
not using the SAI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">PROTO
and
EXTERNPROTO<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Miscellaneous
fields
(e.g., url, render)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.6.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Miscellaneous
STATEMENTS
(e.g., UNITS)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.7.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Geometry
(Mesh,
Extrusion, ElevationGrid, SRC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.8.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Appearance
(Shaders)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.3.9.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Spec-compliant
implementations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.4.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">How
to
go about creating an HTML profile that can be documented and
implemented by
December?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l0 level2
lfo1;
tab-stops:list .75in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Source
Resource
Container (SRC)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">A
structure for holding geometry that can be directly imported
onto a graphics
card<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Start
on
document at </span><a
href="http://realism.com/x3d-tools/Specifications/SRC/"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://realism.com/x3d-tools/Specifications/SRC/">http://realism.com/x3d-tools/Specifications/SRC/</a></span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.3.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Fraunhofer
paper
and documentation at </span><a href="http://x3dom.org/src"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">http://x3dom.org/src</span></a><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Is
this
done as 1 or 2 documents? IOW, are multiple encodings possible?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">The
SRC
standard should be 1 document that fully defines the file layout
(use the
paper as reference). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.6.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Khronos
uses
little-endian for glTF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.7.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">There
is
only one encoding of the SRC file format.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.7.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Abstract
specification
would normatively use SRC in the same manner it uses JFIF (JPEG
file format). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:1.2in;text-indent:-.45in;mso-list:l0 level4
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.5in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.7.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Encoding
parts
(19776-*) would need to be updated appropriately<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.8.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Look
at
ISO Work item proposal for guidance on document structure<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.5.9.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Leonard
to
continue working on document<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.55in;text-indent:-.3in;mso-list:l0 level2
lfo1;
tab-stops:list .75in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.6.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Other
topics (from
4.4)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.6.1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">X3D
WG
request a summary from each of the WGs to manage the Consortium
messaging.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:.85in;text-indent:-.35in;mso-list:l0 level3
lfo1;
tab-stops:list 1.0in"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Arial"><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">5.6.2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">BOF
event
announcement: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.web3d.org/event/x3d-xroads-3d-web">http://www.web3d.org/event/x3d-xroads-3d-web</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.55in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial">Meeting
ended
at 10:06<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin;mso-bidi-font-family:
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<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
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<font size="+1"><b>Leonard Daly</b></font><br>
X3D Co-Chair<br>
Cloud Consultant<br>
President, Daly Realism - <i>Creating the Future</i>
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