<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I would update your X3D-Edit if possible. Download a new version?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 2, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Leonard Daly <<a href="mailto:web3d@realism.com" class="">web3d@realism.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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I don't see an icon like you described - screen shot attached.<br class="">
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It should be the tool on the far right. Look for an icon similar
to the one found on <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://json.org/" class="">http://json.org</a>. It should
work, I just converted something.
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rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 12/1/2015 8:21 PM, John Carlson
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background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Leonard,
you can go into X3D-Edit, select an X3D file and hit the
moebius circle.</blockquote>
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!important;" class="">I am running "X3D-Edit 3.3
Authoring Tool 201302132200". It says to be the latest
revision. I have no idea where the moebius circle is or
what exactly it looks like. I cannot find any
conversions to JSON in the menus. I had attached the XML
file (commentTest.x3d) to the previous message hoping
that someone would be able to convert it. Perhaps there
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following the details enough for me to be
able to run a conversion. I have created an
X3D file using X3D-Edit (probably an old
version) and converted it ClassicVRML using
Xj3D. I also converted it to ClassicVRML
using a style sheet, but that produced only
1 line of content - the XML header line.<br class="">
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I would like to see what this file looks
like in JSON encoding (and ClassicVRML, but
that is a really minor point).<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Comments are
not allowed in a JSON file (I used<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/244777/can-i-use-comments-inside-a-json-file"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/244777/can-i-use-comments-inside-a-json-file">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/244777/can-i-use-comments-inside-a-json-file</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and
the references contained in the page,
especially to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://json.org/" class="">json.org</a>,
RFC 4627 and RFC 7159).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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Does this approach puts comments into JSON
data elements? If so, that means comments
have been elevated from text in the file
to data in the file. If this approach is
to capture comments throughout the
original non-JSON file, does that mean the
data model between a JSON-encoded scene
and an XML-encoded scene is significantly
different?<br class="">
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Out of curiosity, does the compressed
binary encoding capture comments from
anyplace in the original scene file? If
so, does the data model that is stored in
the CBE file match that of the original
file?<br class="">
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On 11/30/2015 9:27 PM, Don Brutzman wrote:<br class="">
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<blockquote cite="mid:565D2FB3.1000606@nps.edu" type="cite" class="">On 11/30/2015 4:23
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might be a comment before the first x3d
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very interesting observation!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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- since JSON does not support comments,
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- since we have come up with an allowable
approach for comments inside an X3D scene
graph that allows round-trip support with
other encodings,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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- we probably ought to deliberately avoid
capturing or including any comments in the
JSON encoding that might appear outside
the "X3D" object declaration.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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all the best, Don<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
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