<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">It should be the tool on the far right. Look for an icon similar to the one found on <a href="http://json.org" class="">http://json.org</a>. It should work, I just converted something.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 1, 2015, at 11:00 PM, Leonard Daly <<a href="mailto:web3d@realism.com" class="">web3d@realism.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">On 12/1/2015 8:21 PM, John Carlson wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:89672F8C-C0D9-4EC3-86F8-7D50F504222F@gmail.com" type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Leonard, you can go into X3D-Edit, select an X3D file and hit the moebius circle.</blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I am running "X3D-Edit 3.3 Authoring Tool 201302132200". It says to be the latest revision. I have no idea where the moebius circle is or what exactly it looks like. I cannot find any conversions to JSON in the menus. I had attached the XML file (commentTest.x3d) to the previous message hoping that someone would be able to convert it. Perhaps there is not a tool for conversion at this time?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Leonard Daly</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""></div><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><blockquote cite="mid:89672F8C-C0D9-4EC3-86F8-7D50F504222F@gmail.com" type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John<br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 1, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Leonard Daly <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:web3d@realism.com" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:web3d@realism.com">web3d@realism.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have not been following the details enough for me to be able to run a conversion. I have created an X3D file using X3D-Edit (probably an old version) and converted it ClassicVRML using Xj3D. I also converted it to ClassicVRML using a style sheet, but that produced only 1 line of content - the XML header line.<br class=""><br class="">I would like to see what this file looks like in JSON encoding (and ClassicVRML, but that is a really minor point).<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Thank you,<br class=""><br class="">Leonard Daly<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:565D4B68.4060606@realism.com" type="cite" class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Comments are not allowed in a JSON file (I used<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/244777/can-i-use-comments-inside-a-json-file">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/244777/can-i-use-comments-inside-a-json-file</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and the references contained in the page, especially to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://json.org/" class="">json.org</a>, RFC 4627 and RFC 7159).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Does this approach puts comments into JSON data elements? If so, that means comments have been elevated from text in the file to data in the file. If this approach is to capture comments throughout the original non-JSON file, does that mean the data model between a JSON-encoded scene and an XML-encoded scene is significantly different?<br class=""><br class="">Out of curiosity, does the compressed binary encoding capture comments from anyplace in the original scene file? If so, does the data model that is stored in the CBE file match that of the original file?<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Leonard Daly<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">On 11/30/2015 9:27 PM, Don Brutzman wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote cite="mid:565D2FB3.1000606@nps.edu" type="cite" class="">On 11/30/2015 4:23 PM, John Carlson wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">There might be a comment before the first x3d object.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">very interesting observation!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">- since JSON does not support comments, and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">- since we have come up with an allowable approach for comments inside an X3D scene graph that allows round-trip support with other encodings,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">then<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">- we probably ought to deliberately avoid capturing or including any comments in the JSON encoding that might appear outside the "X3D" object declaration.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class="">all the best, Don<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><div class="moz-signature">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><font class="tahoma,arial,helvetica san serif" color="#333366"><font class="" size="+1"><b class="">Leonard Daly</b></font><br class="">X3D Co-Chair<br class="">Cloud Consultant<br class="">President, Daly Realism -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">Creating the Future</i></font></div><br class=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset><br class=""><pre class="" wrap="">_______________________________________________
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