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<pre wrap="">So there’s a current going on where we are trying to modify HTML5 and X3DOM attributes, either with straight JavaScript or Templating (via AngularJS). While the X3D JSON loader does not support modifying attributes that I know of after the fact (well, it *may*), it dos support specifying @class and @id attribute names for later modification with your favorite JavaScript framework. Templating is likely another issue we need to face. Who has used templating with X3DOM and what success have they had? Should X3DOM support templating as part of its core, or should it be done with web components or a framework like Meteor, Angular.js, handlebars, mustache, etc.?</pre>
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I am not sure I understand exactly what you mean by templating. I
don't want to make any assumptions and start going down a completely
wrong path. Can you provide a foundation for the discussion?<br>
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<pre wrap="">We need to decide pretty quick whether Protos will be supported in X3DOM (perhaps through a prototype expander on the client and/or server side), otherwise, there will be a massive bifurcation of technology (which may be good) and struggle possibly as people attempt to merge various templating frameworks with X3DOM.</pre>
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In my experience, all of the interesting X3D PROTOs contain a Script
node. Without a Script node, I have not seen or been able to
construct something that is any different than an Inline. If one
exists, I would like to know about it.<br>
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I do not see why there should be a Script node in an html-type
profile for X3D. Having JavaScript (meaning code to manipulate the
DOM) and ECMAScript (meaning code to manipulate X3D's SAI) is
dangerous as people will quickly be confused. The SAI api cannot
replace the DOM api as there are things that can to be done to the
DOM that do not make sense to handle with the SAI. There are also a
lot (meaning >>1,000x) more DOM programmers than SAI
programmers.<br>
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So without Script node, I do not see the need for PROTO. I am
willing to reconsider if you can provide me useful examples that are
doable in PROTO and not Inline or some other means. <br>
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Perhaps a better concept might be a MACRO where the contained
(declarative) code is expanded and parameter values from the parent
are substituted to equivalent parameters in the expanded code. That
probably has lots of applications and would be straight-forward to
code. It would be sort-of like an Inline with pre-defined
parameters. If that is the case. it would be necessary to define any
name-scoping limitations and parameter updates. Perhaps an extended
Inline definition would be sufficient.<br>
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Leonard Daly<br>
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I think we need to provide an answer which *isn’t* straight JavaScript, and that can be declarative.
John
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<font size="+1"><b>Leonard Daly</b></font><br>
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President, Daly Realism - <i>Creating the Future</i>
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