<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I cannot figure out why the xhtml namespace shows the scene correctly.  You can now play with namespaces on my loader page @ <a href="http://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/" class="">http://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/</a>  to see what the differences are.  As far as I can tell the XML serializes properly.  I guess there may be an error in how my code brings the serialized XML DOM into the document.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 26, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Don Brutzman <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" class="">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 2/25/2016 11:14 PM, John Carlson wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I have been having problems generating XML for consumption by Cobweb.  I finally discovered that I needed to set a namespace.  When I set a namespace, then X3DOM no longer work as well.  So I made namespace optional.<br class=""><br class="">New version is here:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/" class="">http://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/</a><br class=""><br class="">https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/<br class=""><br class="">Happy X3D JSONing!<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Hi John, great to see that you are making such progress.<br class=""><br class="">I loaded your new version in Firefox and used Firebug to inspect the DOM tree.  Got a blue background for X3DOM, both Cobweb insets had Flipper happily swimming off to port.<br class=""><br class="">Issues noted:<br class=""><br class="">- Looks like each X3D Scene element is being loaded as a child of its predecessor, rather than a peer.<br class=""><br class="">- The parent-child relationships were not evident until I inspected source with Firebug (HTML tab provides tree view) and then confirmed in X3D-Edit (by using right-click for formatting the source to insert indents).<br class=""><br class="">- Not seeing a <head> element around the <meta> elements<br class=""><br class="">- Looks like you have a <canvas> and two <div> elements inserted between the closing </scene> and </x3d>, effectively asking x3dom to render them. those likely should be past the </x3d> closing tag so that the html browser can render them.<br class=""><br class="">- Suggest you turn on the X3DOM console to see what it thinks, might be a good option to keep for future inspection also.<br class=""><br class="">- The namespace issue is interesting.  Is there X3DOM documentation on this?  X3D documentation found at<br class=""><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span>Validation of X3D Scenes using DTD and XML Schema<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span><a href="http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dSceneAuthoringHints.html#Validation" class="">http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dSceneAuthoringHints.html#Validation</a><br class=""><br class="">Hope this helps, will be on the weekly JSON call in 2 hours, aloha.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div id="x3domxml"><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span><x3d id="x3dele" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsd:nonamespaceschemalocation="http://www.web3d.org/specifications/x3d-3.3.xsd" version="3.3" profile="Immersive" xmlns="http://www.x3dom.org/x3dom" width="300px" height="150px"><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><meta content="hand conversion from http://www.x3dom.org/x3dom/test/functional/flipper.html" name="generator"><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><meta content="flipper.x3d" name="title"><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><meta content="flipper flopping around" name="description"><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">  </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span><meta content="http://www.x3dom.org/x3dom/test/functional/flipper.x3d" name="identifier"><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-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