<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think it’s an issue with the validator converting large integers to strings or longs instead of numbers (floats or doubles or in Java’s case, BigDecimal). I will look into it.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 3, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Roy Walmsley <<a href="mailto:roy.walmsley@ntlworld.com" class="">roy.walmsley@ntlworld.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">John,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">First, it can only be a number. Why shouldn’t it be a number? It is a legal JSON number. It gets correctly generated. It’s just large!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Here it is in JSON:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: maroon; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">@startTime"</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">:</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">999999999999999999999999999999999999</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">So, lets add one to it. What do we get? 1</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">00000000000000000000000000000000000</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal;" class="">0.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Now, let’s add thousands separators to make it easier to count zeroes. It becomes 1,</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal;" class="">0.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">That makes 36 zeroes, assuming I can count! Now, bearing in mind that this field is an SFTime field, which is specified as a double precision floating point number (see 19775-1 5.3.15 SFTime and MFTime,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V3.3/Part01/fieldsDef.html#SFTimeAndMFTime" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V3.3/Part01/fieldsDef.html#SFTimeAndMFTime</a>)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">we could have written the number as<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal; background-color: white; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class="">1.0E36</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">. What is the range of a double precision number? Using IEEE 754 it is up to 1.0E308. So, our example is miniscule in comparison! Thus, it is perfectly legal from all points of view. It just looks huge because it is written out long hand.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">From a loader perspective it needs to know that the startTime field is an SFTime field and handle the input accordingly.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Regards,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Roy<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>John Carlson [<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" class="">mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>03 April 2016 19:15<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Don Brutzman; Roy Walmsley<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>X3D Graphics public mailing list<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>@startTime too big a number<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif;" class="">I think @startTime in several places may be too big of an number, and is being treated like a string? Not sure. Here’s the JSON file:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Menlo, serif;" class="">/<a href="http://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/Basic/StudentProjects/IkeaBeadToy.json" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples//Basic/StudentProjects/IkeaBeadToy.json</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Perhaps allow it to be either a string or a number? Not sure. I guess there’s no Time type in JSON.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">What is <span style="font-size: 9.5pt;" class="">∞</span> translated to? Not that you can put it in the field.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">John</div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>