<div dir="auto">Leonard, you can support the Script tag by preprocessing it into JavaScript. You don't need eval, you need something like browserify to preprocess your Scripts into JavaScript scripts. What is left undone is the X3D event model, work needs to be done there, but Andreas has shown a way forward with the "outputchange" event I believe. Proxies are used for JavaScript events.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Drink the koolaid. It tastes good. Use Cobweb, you might like it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 14, 2017 10:16 AM, "Leonard Daly" <<a href="mailto:Leonard.Daly@realism.com">Leonard.Daly@realism.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-9109728504233873042moz-cite-prefix">I keep harping on this because no one
has yet shown me how this is going to happen. <br>
On page 8 of the notes, item (6): "In principle, all nodes in the
standard, including scripts and prototypes, can be supported."<br>
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The X3D Standard specifies that the node is called "Script" and
contains children tags.<br>
HTML has a node called "script" without children tags.<br>
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1) I do not see how the X3D Standard can be supported "in
principle" or "in practice" to meet the requirements of the
statement.<br>
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2) HTML scripts are global and have access to the entire DOM. #5
states that nodes appear in the DOM, so from an HTML script I can
modify all nodes in the DOM, including X3D ones -- this would
include X3D Script nodes if a way was found to include it.<br>
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3) All scripts in the HTML page occupy the same namespace (that is
global in scope). From an X3D Script (if one was able to exists),
I could access all parts of the page, including other scripts,
including possibly non-X3D scripts.<br>
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This is not integrating X3D into HTML; but elbowing aside an X3D
bubble within the HTML space. If X3D is going to be integrated
with the DOM, then really integrate it with the environment. If
not, then stop using integrating and use something like "X3D space
in the HTML document"<br>
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Leonard Daly<br>
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On 6/13/2017 4:41 PM, Andreas Plesch wrote:<br>
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During the Web3D 2017 Conference in Brisbane Australia,<br>
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<a href="http://web3d2017.web3d.org/program" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://web3d2017.web3d.org/pro<wbr>gram</a><br>
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the following presentation was given:<br>
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The Future of X3D<br>
Roy Walmsley and Don Brutzman<br>
How will the X3D standard adapt to HTML5 and
virtual and augmented reality on the web?<br>
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Presentation<br>
<a href="http://www.web3d.org/sites/default/files/page/X3D%20Version%204/FutureOfX3D.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.web3d.org/sites/def<wbr>ault/files/page/X3D%20Version%<wbr>204/FutureOfX3D.pdf</a><br>
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Detailed notes<br>
<a href="http://www.web3d.org/sites/default/files/page/X3D%20Version%204/FutureOfX3dWeb3d2017June7.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.web3d.org/sites/def<wbr>ault/files/page/X3D%20Version%<wbr>204/FutureOfX3dWeb3d2017June7.<wbr>pdf</a><br>
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Photograph by Paul Grimm showing off the incredible venue
at Queensland University of Technology (<a href="http://qut.edu.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">qut.edu.au</a>)
for Web3D 2017:<br>
<a href="http://www.web3d.org/sites/default/files/image/wg/X3D%20Version%204/PresentationPanoramaFutureOfX3dPaulGrimm20170607_135611.1600x492.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.web3d.org/sites/def<wbr>ault/files/image/wg/X3D%20Vers<wbr>ion%204/PresentationPanoramaFu<wbr>tureOfX3dPaulGrimm20170607_<wbr>135611.1600x492.jpg</a><br>
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These links are maintained on the following key page:<br>
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X3D Version 4<br>
<a href="http://www.web3d.org/x3d4" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.web3d.org/x3d4</a><br>
<br>
Twitter announcement:<br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/Web3DConsortium/status/874662520270708737" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/Web3DConso<wbr>rtium/status/87466252027070873<wbr>7</a><br>
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All questions, dialog and insights are welcome. This
presentation distills much effort and hopefully provides a
helpful basis for continuing progress.</blockquote>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for sharing this thoughtful
presentation. The sketch of an integrated event model is
particularly interesting and I may redraw it in an attempt to
learn about its workings.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">The sketch is also interesting as it
must have come as something of a relief to an audience
listening to what must have been the most text heavy
presentation at a meeting on 3d graphics ;)<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">-Andreas<br>
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