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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b>Minutes of the X3D WG meeting held on Wednesday 4<sup>th</sup> October 2017 – Public Release<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Note: For Web3D members the full minutes are available at </b><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006383.html">http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006383.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Attendees: Roy Walmsley, Leonard Daly, Don Brutzman, Vince Marchetti, Anita Havele,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Apologies received: Dick Puk.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A. <b><u>Outstanding matters</u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> None.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>B. <b><u>Summary and Technical reports</u></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'>Opportunity for anyone to make a short report on Web site, marketing, communication, specification or technical matters that is not already on the Agenda.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><u>Report on Mantis SG meeting held Thursday 28<sup>th</sup> September 2017<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Reference: <a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006355.html">http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006355.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Roy summarized 6 Mantis issues, of which two were agreed and updated to Assigned, two needed feedback from the Geospatial Working Group and were updated to Feedback, and the remaining two were updated to Acknowledged, as more discussion was required.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><u>Report on Mantis SG meeting held Monday 2<sup>nd</sup> October 2017<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Reference: <a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006365.html">http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006365.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Roy summarized 3 Mantis issues, of which two were agreed and updated to Assigned, while the third was updated to Acknowledged.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><u>Updated HTML specification<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Roy reported that the W3C HTML specification (<a href="https://www.w3.org/TR/html/">https://www.w3.org/TR/html/</a>) is now at HTML 5.1 Edition 2 as of yesterday, 3<sup>rd</sup> October 2017. The list of changes can be seen at <a href="https://www.w3.org/TR/html/changes.html#changes">https://www.w3.org/TR/html/changes.html#changes</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=4 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><u>Declarative WebVR Community Group<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Leonard made a preliminary announcement that on November 6<sup>th</sup> 2017 at the W3C TPAC the Declarative WebVR community group will have a meeting in the early afternoon to discuss VR in a browser. The Declarative WebVR community group is looking at developing an HTML extension for VR.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=5 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><u>VR and WebVR strategy statement<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>The issue of a Web3D Consortium strategy statement on VR and WebVR for V4.1 was raised. It was noted that we have the MAR reference model, ISO/IEC DIS 18039 (<a href="https://www.iso.org/standard/30824.html">https://www.iso.org/standard/30824.html</a>) currently processing through ISO. Furthermore, WebVR (<a href="https://w3c.github.io/webvr/">https://w3c.github.io/webvr/</a>) is still an active area of work. It was agreed to add this topic to next week’s agenda.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=6 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><u>Indentation within message replies<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Don reported that indentation (i.e. use of “<”) within messages is inconsistent. For example <a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006367.html">http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-October/006367.html</a> has it, whereas <a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-September/006321.html">http://web3d.org/mailman/private/x3d_web3d.org/2017-September/006321.html</a> does not. Further investigation is needed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u>C. Discussion Topics<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:90.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><u>X3D integration into HTML5 – Events and Event models<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Reference: <a href="http://www.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_V4_HTML_Integration_Requirements">http://www.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_V4_HTML_Integration_Requirements</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Not discussed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><u>Contribution Submission of Guidelines, Standards Adoption Process, and Chapters<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Member-only discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=3 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><u>X3D/glTF features comparison<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Member-only discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=4 type=1><li class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><u>Release of Mantis subgroup meeting minutes to the public<o:p></o:p></u></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt'>Not discussed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><u><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoNormal>D. <b><u>Specification work, GitHub, and Mantis issues<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:72.0pt'>None set.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:54.0pt'><u><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></u></p><p class=MsoNormal>E. <b><u>Schedule review<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u><o:p><span style='text-decoration:none'> </span></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Other topics for discussion not yet assigned are:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:36.0pt'>Investigate other 3D display capabilities, e.g. CSS.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:36.0pt'>Timo Sturm of Fraunhofer to talk about advanced materials. Also with Max Limper re SRC/glTF interoperability, X3DOM support and repeatability.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>October 11<sup>th</sup> – (Apologies from Leonard) VR strategy.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>October 18<sup>th</sup> –<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>October 25<sup>th</sup> –<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>November 1<sup>st</sup> –<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>=======================================================================================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><u>F. Date and time of next meeting<o:p></o:p></u></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>October 11<sup>th</sup> 2017 at 0800 PDT 1600 BST 1500 UTC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><o:p> </o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal>Roy Walmsley<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>X3D WG co-chair<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>