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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Nope, can’t use Cesium Man.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>John</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 28, 2018 3:34 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com">Andreas Plesch</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: both X3DOM and X_ITE.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I've already looked at direct translation from glTF to XML. I will look into translations to HAnim. Is Cesium man ok?</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, May 28, 2018, 2:47 PM Andreas Plesch <<a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com" target="_blank">andreasplesch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>There just does not seem a lot of demand or requests by users or<br>customers. Of course, this may be a chicken and egg problem.<br>Contributions to x3dom or x_ite are always welcome, in any case.<br><br>For x3dom, my interest would be probably the glTF angle. glTF has<br>character animation. Here is an example:<br><a href="https://www.donmccurdy.com/2017/11/06/creating-animated-gltf-characters-with-mixamo-and-blender/" target="_blank">https://www.donmccurdy.com/2017/11/06/creating-animated-gltf-characters-with-mixamo-and-blender/</a><br><br>The best explanation, apart from studying glTF loaders, is apparently<br>in this figure, sorry about that:<br><a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KhronosGroup/glTF/master/specification/2.0/figures/gltfOverview-2.0.0a.png" target="_blank">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/KhronosGroup/glTF/master/specification/2.0/figures/gltfOverview-2.0.0a.png</a><br><br>There is probably a lot of overlap between glTF and HAnim and it would<br>be important to understand how both relate to each other to be able to<br>support both. I think Leonard tried to tackle this but focusing<br>specifically on glTF-HAnim may be constructive. For example, a<br>translation of a simple glTF character to an HAnim humanoid would be a<br>good first step.<br><br>A functional, minimal subset of HAnim of nodes and/or a Proto-based<br>implementation of the nodes would also help implementers.<br><br>A main challenge will be probably the requirement to have vertex<br>geometry manipulation in a shader on the GPU. This is done only for<br>displacement textures of a CommonSurfaceShader node currently in<br>x3dom.<br><br>-Andreas<br><br><br>On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:42 AM, Joseph D Williams<br><<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br>>> both X3DOM and X_ITE …<br>><br>><br>><br>> The discussions about both X3DOM and X_ITE are, to me, missing a very<br>> important feature. Neither of these tools can do HAnim skeleton controlled<br>> deformable skin. This is a very important feature, lending itself to many<br>> important applications in addition to HAnim. There have been several<br>> discussions about the hanim joint(s) to deformable skin bindings and as far<br>> as I have seen, there is no doubt that the way x3d specifies the basic, most<br>> simple, and most transportable technique to achieve the result. So, as the<br>> HAnim standard takes the next step, why not move a bit toward implementing<br>> this important capability in your browsers. BSContact does it, I think<br>> Instant does it mostly but x3dom and x_ite don’t.<br>><br>><br>><br>> Thanks and Best,<br>><br>> Joe<br>><br>><br>><br>><br><br><br><br>-- <br>Andreas Plesch<br>Waltham, MA 02453</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>