<div><div dir="auto">I am interested in functional (behavioral) semantic info, in particular, creating a taxonomy of motion (if not done before). This is similar to categorizing time based equations, surfaces, and volumes. For example, walking along a path, holding a ball, then playing catch, sitting and rising from a bean bag chair.</div></div><div dir="auto">Probably many of our physics based tags apply here. Also our Transform attributes and recent additions to HAnim.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This goes along with my idea of a predicate based world. One subject of study in philosophy is “analogical predication.”</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is anyone else interested in this? This might form the basis of an animation package or avatar control.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In particular, I am interested in taking parallel sequences of actions and inferring loops, conditions, exception handlers and functions/macros. Like a multiuser development environment. Perhaps we can resuscitate X3D-Edit multiuser mode.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Specifically, I think we can extend MTBD to multiuser MTBD. Think of something like multiuser AppleScript. I am interested in the inferencing into programs and how this can be done in a domain specific and domain generic fashion. As a first test I suggest a “follow me” or tutorial application such as dance dance revolution or guitar hero.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yes, there are many examples of this from robotics. Why are we still programming in XSLT when we could have MapForce? How about multiuser MapForce?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Is it appropriate to classify and organize user provided data automatically?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Then on top of that, can we classify coordinated behavior? Is this the holy grail of computing? What are the skill levels we can infer for operations, logistics, tactics and strategy?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 12:49 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">[cc: x3d-public]<br>
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Jakub and Thanos, thanks for proceeding with the meeting and helpful minutes on 14 MAR 2019.<br>
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We had a bit of a mixup last week, I'm afraid... USA had already shifted to Standard Time. California is now UTC-7.<br>
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One hour prior to you two meeting, Christophe Mouton, Nicholas Polys and I had an interesting discussion about the X3D Semantic Web group's work. This line of thought led to sharing the SC4 STEP ontology presentation you saw. Apologies for missed coordination - you are always welcome to call my cell if there is some mismatch in expectations we might quickly resolve.<br>
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On 3/15/2019 2:07 AM, Jakub Flotyński wrote:<br>
> Dear Colleagues,<br>
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> below is a brief report from our yesterday's meeting. Please add your comments.<br>
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> Best regards<br>
> Jakub<br>
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> 9.0. Ninth meeting of the Semantic Web Working Group<br>
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> Attendees Jakub Flotynski, Athanasios Malamos<br>
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> Web3D Teleconference Information<br>
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> 9.1 *Working group information*<br>
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> The X3D Semantic Web Working Group is a Web3D Consortium member-only group that does most of its business openly on the x3d-public mailing list.<br>
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> X3D Semantic Web Working Group Charter<br>
> <a href="http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d-semantic-web/charter" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d-semantic-web/charter</a><br>
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> X3D Semantic Web Working Group<br>
> <a href="http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d-semantic-web" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d-semantic-web</a><br>
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> "The X3D Semantic Web Working Group mission is to publish models to the Web using X3D in order to best gain Web interoperability and enable intelligent 3D applications, feature-based 3D model querying, and reasoning over 3D scenes."<br>
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> semantics@web3D.org<br>
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> 9.2 Primary topic: *slideset Semantic X3D - thoughts and ideas*<br>
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> Don provided an interesting presentation on ontologies for geometry and topology, which was presented in Seoul. We discussed "Coordination of Geometry and Topology Ontology Efforts", which addresses topics interesting to our group. We also discussed the stack of ontologies on slide 13 in our main presentation:<br>
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> <a href="https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1fCMu0V-zRAfJqFId7QIMyLh2EOCr5Qgl63MqqyFk6JM/edit?ts=5c5c6903" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1fCMu0V-zRAfJqFId7QIMyLh2EOCr5Qgl63MqqyFk6JM/edit?ts=5c5c6903</a><br>
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> Possibly, the ontology of general concepts (we discussed earlier), which is common to different domains, would be the mapping ontology in our approach. We extended the presentation with the concept of instances of the ontology stack (slide 14). Instances of the ontologies (T-Boxes) are knowledge bases (A-Boxes) representing particular 3D scenes and objects as well as other ontologies (T-Boxes) extending classes and properties from the stack. The main question (still open) is whether the instances of the mapping ontology should relate to a particular domain or not. Maybe, they should only link domain classes and properties to 3D-specific classes and properties (e.g., in the 3D Ontology).<br>
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> 9.3 * Planning Ahead *<br>
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> We plan to meet 21 MAR when we will discuss a particular example of the ontology stack (e.g., classes and properties for representing furniture in a room) with an instance of the stack (a particular 3D furnished room).<br>
As you each later noted, no meeting today... I must send regrets for next week, will be at Stanford University taking a 3-day course on open-source Protege tool for Semantic Web modeling - RDF, OWL, verification, reasoning, etc.<br>
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The suggested ontology-stack representation example looks like an interesting next step to pursue.<br>
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I hope that over the next two weeks we can also consider how the EuroGraphics and Web3D conference workshops can best proceed. Good luck with your important work.<br>
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all the best, Don<br>
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Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<br>
X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics <a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><br>
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