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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Possible Goals for X3DJSONLD:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Create JSON -> PLY conversion tool, for roundtripping</p><p class=MsoNormal>Further implement JSON -> STL -> JSON round tripping</p><p class=MsoNormal>X3D Security for X3D JSON. Current x3dserve uses GPG. See <a href="https://github.com/coderextreme/x3dserve">https://github.com/coderextreme/x3dserve</a> for implementation. Look for other implementation of X3D security and find correct libraries. Is there the equivalent of GPG or OpenSSL in JavaScript? Can we do a file conversion with JSweet or other?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Create a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) for the web/X3DJSONLD. Suggested resources: Lively Kernel has overlapping windows, but unsure of licensing. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTJRwKOFddc&feature=youtu.be">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTJRwKOFddc&feature=youtu.be</a> Others?</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, April 26, 2019 3:23 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a>; <a href="mailto:puk@igraphics.com">Richard F. Puk</a>; <a href="mailto:anita.havele@web3d.org">Anita Havele</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d@web3d.org">X3D Graphics Working Group</a><br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [x3d-public] X3D minutes 26 APR 2019: X3Dv4 ImplementationsStatuspage update</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hope you saw my status of X3DJSONLD in response to last weeks minutes. I suggest creating a list of goals for X3DJSONLD. I have a ton of time available, and would prefer working in JavaScript than Python. Perhaps I should join the X3DOM/X_ITE teams?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The implementation of X3DPSAIL is well underway, and may just require a few more methods and tweaks to X3DJSAIL. Will report on that in a separate message.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, April 26, 2019 11:53 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a>; <a href="mailto:puk@igraphics.com">Richard F. Puk</a>; <a href="mailto:anita.havele@web3d.org">Anita Havele</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d@web3d.org">X3D Graphics Working Group</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[x3d-public] X3D minutes 26 APR 2019: X3Dv4 Implementations Statuspage update<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>0. *Attendees* Anita Havele, Vince Marchetti, Nicholas Polys, Dick Puk, Don Brutzman.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Confirmed: all information in these weekly minutes is releasable publicly.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Today's accomplished goal: updated implementation support, include calls for continued implementation work.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> X3Dv4 Implementations Status<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/x3dv4-implementations<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Information inputs are always welcome. With much X3D activity occurring there is typically plenty to review each week, ensuring that our progress continues to be clearly recorded and communicated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Members and invited experts are welcome. We are an open organization.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We meet regularly on Fridays 0800-0930 pacific. To join the teleconference:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Web3D Teleconference<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The X3D Graphics Working Group addresses all X3D specification issues and coordinates the technical development of future improvements.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Each week we report out both public and member-only information - membership has value. To become a Web3D Consortium member:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Join the Web3D Consortium<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/join<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>==================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>1. *Prior meeting minutes*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> [x3d-public] X3D minutes 19 APR 2019: tracking X3Dv4 implementation progress<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2019-April/010541.html<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2019-April/010590.html<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>At this point we discussed recent meetings and current developments.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>a. Dick has just received a few additional comments on HAnim FDIS from ISO editors - he is applying the tweaks and we plan meeting in near future to review/confirm/resubmit.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>b. Design Printing Scanning working group progress: renewed work on Annotations Component, preliminary draft is in github for v4. A close look is needed, especially with respect to Layout and Layer component.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> [cad] DPS WG Minutes for April 25 2019 teleconference<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d.org/mailman/private/cad_web3d.org/2019-April/001104.html<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Suggest approach for X3Dv4:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- deprecate Layout component,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- retain Layers component,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- refactor Annotations to match current capabilities,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- experiment with optional usage in combination with HTML5,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- defer further reconsider of Layout component until X3Dv4.1 in concert with WebXR and AR/VR/Mixed Reality work?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>c. Do we need to have a volunteer to represent Web3D and X3D in the WebXR group? Seems like a valuable role for someone, especially if interested in X3Dv4.1 efforts. Having a 5-minute weekly update on WebXR activities might be useful. Web3D liaison to W3C for WebXR would be a formal position.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Agenda review: what else?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>==================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>2. *Recent and Upcoming Events*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Several important external events relating to X3D have occurred. Significant valuable resources are online that are worth quick review. Expect to see further twitter announcements on these.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>a. pending: X3D Semantic Web Workshop submission for Web3D 2019.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>b. In preparation: Web3D 2019 Conference<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/event/web3d-conference-2019<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d2019.web3d.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>c. SIGGRAPH 2019<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> https://s2019.siggraph.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>*Conference registration is open* hooray! Discount provided for ACM members.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> https://web3d2019.web3d.org/registration<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Web3D and SIGGRAPH registration independent of each other. Tutorial and workshop deadline is Tuesday 30 April.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Communications team meets weekly to continue promoting Web3D, X3D and HAnim. Several of these items are old and will be cleared once final announcements/tweets are made.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>==================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>3. *Status of X3D Language Bindings and File Encodings*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Task today: review and update. Consider moving to Implementation Status page... so moved!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>[...]<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>f. X3D C, C++, C# Language Bindings<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Last reviews at Web3D Korea Chapter meeting Seoul January 2019<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- TODO update status, plans for SIGGRAPH code releases and encouraging additional use.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- TODO: create specifications<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Wondering, might a monthly "code drop" (or somesuch) permit further review and familiarization?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Note that compilation is requirement for eventual submission to ISO<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Recurring review might help attract second implementation for each<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Myeong Won Lee reports steady progress and shared some example zips. We have suggested 29 May as a date to discuss during regular Korea meeting time, 1700 pacific. 30 minutes should be enough.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>==================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>4. *PointProperties*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>List of known PointProperties implementations: Xj3D.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>TODO: Work in progress to add Xj3D original scene, otherwise prior work is complete.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Completed today: migrate key links and status to X3Dv4 implementations page.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>==================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>5. *References and Resources*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> X3Dv4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/x3d4<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> X3Dv4 Development page<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/wiki/index.php/X3D_version_4.0_Development<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> X3D Specification Relationships<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dSpecificationRelationships.png<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Mantis Issues (requires member login, twice)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Web3D Specifications on Github: X3D (members can request access)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>and now<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> X3Dv4 Implementations Status<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/x3dv4-implementations<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Communication of priorities is welcome. We will focus on one or two topics every week.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>==================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>6. *Upcoming topics*<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Next week: TBD (Don may be traveling)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Projective Texture Mapping (PTM) component.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>a. Mantis issue 1255 created for keeping track of status.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>b. TODO Add zip of spec/examples/information that has been submitted on mantis issue<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=1255<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>c. Prose already present in github components directory as ProjectiveTextureMapping.html<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> 43 Projective Texture Mapping Component<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/blob/master/ISO-IEC19775/ISO-IEC19775-1/ISO-IEC19775-1v4.0/ISO-IEC19775-1v4-WD1/Part01/components/ProjectiveTextureMapping.html<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>d. TODO Add example scenes to X3D Basic Examples Archive<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>e. TODO List existing implementations, then issue call for additional implementations.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Topics list:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Annotation Component:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>a. Much work already accomplished. Renewed review in Design Printing Scanning (DPS) group.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>b. Time to land any existing draft prose in github specifications, and review what work is occurring.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- X3D Architecture Design and Event Passing, compare implementations. Specification writeup planned late May.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>a. how have X3DOM and X_ITE each implemented events?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>b. What differences exist?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>c. Are ROUTE connections consistent?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>d. X3DOM is still missing some important/simple Event Utility nodes - is there a problem?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>e. Highlight how does syntax disambiguate handling of HTML5 Script and X3D Script?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>f. Reviewing our tagging of Mantis issues as #X3Dv4 for completeness.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>g. Ensure that goals and concepts on relationships between HTML5 and x3D are clearly expressed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- MetadataSet containerField implementation efforts, Mantis issue resolution<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Tagging and prioritizing Mantis issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Numerous things to drive to completion, who is doing what? Now listed on X3Dv4 Implementations page.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Sound and Audio implements<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Related work:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- X3D and other BOFs at SIGGRAPH, how to best execute these? Anita is driving.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- Carto BOF, are there any candidates for that? So far, none.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>- X3DOM release status? Expected for Web3D 2019.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>==================================<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>No major showstoppers are noted, rather we continue getting closer to a comprehensive X3Dv4-HTML5 architecture each time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Steadily progressing with X3Dv4! 8)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>x3d-public mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>x3d-public@web3d.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>