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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'>Whiny bitchy stuff, followed by action.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope that people don’t mind my self-appointed position of test coordinator/test planner/test generator/test suite programmer/schema programmer/validator/transpiler writer-user. I’ve grown used to the role, and perhaps put too much pressure on people. I hope I am relieving some pressure from you.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am not so great at the person-to-person, configuration management stuff, with only limited experience with python. To me, a configuration package means we’ve got the versions of the packages right, and recorded somewhere, so we can replicate the behavior of a user’s system. I have interest in setting up continuous integration. Ideally, we should be able to download an installation script from the CI environment. First though, I need the packages and versions that we are going to continuously integrate. What configurations do we support? What IDEs? I can provide initial testing without a configuration, but I feel a lot better knowing we have a configuration before deploying packages or going into acceptance testing.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I currently have x3dpsail installed as a local package, since I can run outside the x3dpsail folder. What I need now is a conda package, so I can run the package in the jupyter notebook. Don indicated that jupyter notebook was an acceptable environment, and I concur. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think I have to run python inside a conda environment to get x3dpsail installed in conda, or use the conda command inside my package folder.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>What is the conda command to build and install a local package? I was able to install pyjnius, but I think from a folder, the command is probably different. There’s also something called “conda recipes”</p><p class=MsoNormal><br>It seems like I should spent some effort learning the conda system. Time to do some reading that Andreas provided.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Also, only Don responded to my Python User survey. I assume we’re going to market this at SIGGRAPH/Web3D 2019?</p><p class=MsoNormal>=============================================================================================================</p><p class=MsoNormal>Primary effort should be on a conda-forge releasable package.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>John</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:aono@tut.jp">Masaki Aono</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, May 22, 2019 1:09 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a>; <a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com">Andreas Plesch</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>; <a href="mailto:vmarchetti@ameritech.net">Vincent Marchetti</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a>; <a href="mailto:lepeitso@nps.edu">lepeitso@nps.edu</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: compiling abox.future.py Re: Please instruct me what I shouldbetocatch up withyouRe:X3D/XSeen Python API (PyX3D or X3DPy)</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Dear all,</p><p>I think I could install x3dpsail.</p><p>C:\Aono\ISO-2019\Python\John\pyjnius>pip freeze | grep x3dpsail<br>x3dpsail==0.1</p><p>Then, I did as follows:</p><p>> python HelloWorld.py</p><p>which produced HelloWorld_RoundTrip.x3d.</p><p>The attached are the log + Jupyter log (PDF) that might be interesting, with no texture map though.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On 2019/05/22 14:42, John Carlson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Dr Aono, Don, Andreas, Loren,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have attempted to collect items necessary for building a x3dpsail package in the GitHub repository:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><a href="https://github.com/carlsonsolutiondesign/x3dpsail">https://github.com/carlsonsolutiondesign/x3dpsail</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>If I was able to find you as an email address or user in the GitHub database, I added you as collaborators<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>We need, I believe:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>A pip package<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>A conda package<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>A mybinder package<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>A conda-forge package<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Please check your various attempts and successes to create packages into this repository. Also modify README.md to include instructions.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I have added a HelloWorld.py which should run under all packaging techniques I hope.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I would hope we could find a way to add our package to any activated conda environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>What I would like to have is the ability to release this folder as an “X3DPSAIL release” and maybe have Travis CI (or similar) deploy the release to various package repositories.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>If you know someone with CI experience (I have some, but it’s nearly a decade old, with Java) who is willing to help, that would be terrific (Do they teach CI in schools?) Let me know and I will add them. I think we have a fairly simple release. The only complication is the jar.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I will go back to reading recipes, etc from Andreas’ posts.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'><a href="mailto:aono@tut.jp">Masaki Aono</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:00 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>; <a href="mailto:vmarchetti@ameritech.net">Vincent Marchetti</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: compiling abox.future.py Re: Please instruct me what I should betocatch up withyouRe:X3D/XSeen Python API (PyX3D or X3DPy)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p>Dear John and all,</p><p>Thank you.</p><p>Actually I did svn cleanup and update, which did not solve my problems.</p><p>But, yes, I think I could download the necessary sub-folders.</p><p>I haven't yet downloaded x3d/content/examples/X3dForWebAuthors folder.</p><p>Sincerely,</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On 2019/05/22 12:35, John Carlson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>If svn checkout abends, you can cd to the folder, then run<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>svn cleanup<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>svn up<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>to continue the checkout. Cleanup removes the abend.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:black'>You need the specifications folder, the stylesheets folder, the tooltips folder, and the x3d/content/examples/X3dForWebAuthors folder, I believe for a clean build.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><pre>-- </pre><pre>******************************************************</pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>青野雅樹</span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>豊橋技術科学大学</span> <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>情報・知能工学系</span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>知識データ工学・情報検索研究室</span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>〒</span>441-8580 <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>豊橋市天伯町雲雀ヶ丘</span>1-1</pre><pre><a href="TEL:(0532)">TEL:(0532)</a> 44-6764</pre><pre>FAX:(0532) 44-6757</pre><pre> </pre><pre>Masaki Aono</pre><pre>Professor</pre><pre>Knowledge Data Engineering Laboratory</pre><pre>Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering</pre><pre>Toyohashi University of Technology</pre><pre>1-1 Hibarigaoka, Tempaku-cho,</pre><pre>Toyohashi-shi, Aichi 441-8580 JAPAN</pre><pre>TEL: 81+532-44-6764</pre><pre>FAX:81+532-44-6757</pre><pre>email: <a href="mailto:aono@tut.jp">aono@tut.jp</a></pre><pre>****************************************************** </pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New \;color\:black";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><pre>-- </pre><pre>******************************************************</pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>青野雅樹</span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>豊橋技術科学大学</span> <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>情報・知能工学系</span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>知識データ工学・情報検索研究室</span></pre><pre><span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>〒</span>441-8580 <span style='font-family:"MS Mincho"'>豊橋市天伯町雲雀ヶ丘</span>1-1</pre><pre><a href="TEL:(0532)">TEL:(0532)</a> 44-6764</pre><pre>FAX:(0532) 44-6757</pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Masaki Aono</pre><pre>Professor</pre><pre>Knowledge Data Engineering Laboratory</pre><pre>Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering</pre><pre>Toyohashi University of Technology</pre><pre>1-1 Hibarigaoka, Tempaku-cho,</pre><pre>Toyohashi-shi, Aichi 441-8580 JAPAN</pre><pre>TEL: 81+532-44-6764</pre><pre>FAX:81+532-44-6757</pre><pre>email: <a href="mailto:aono@tut.jp">aono@tut.jp</a></pre><pre>****************************************************** </pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>