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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t expect to be present at the meeting, but here’s my feedback re: X3DMetadataObject.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t expect an gotchas, but I still need to go through regression testing in X3DJSONLD. If Don has gone through a Java build on X3D resources examples, I don’t think there will be issue.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>John</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:42 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d@web3d.org">X3D Graphics Working Group</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[x3d] X3D agenda 20 SEP 2019: X3DMetadataObject/X3DUOM, specs diagramupdate, annotations, field naming</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here is agenda for X3D Working Group meeting Friday 20 SEP, 08-0930 pacific. (Connection information below.)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Attendees: Web3D Consortium members + invited experts. (Are you ready to volunteer? We are moving out smartly.)</p><p class=MsoNormal>Recent meeting minutes:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>* [x3d-public] XX3D minutes 6 SEP 2019: DICOM discussion, overview diagram review, ISO meeting highlights, API progress, defer STL/OBJ support</p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2019-September/011251.html</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>* [x3d-public] X3D Working Group minutes 21 AUG 2019: glTF X3D specification Plan Of Action Milestones (POAM)</p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2019-August/011232.html</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Topics:</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>0. Progress and problem reports. What else is new?! 8)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>1. (from prior meeting) X3Dv4 DICOM Profile with OBJ support proposed on medical working group mailing list, discussed in CAD Design Printing Scanning meeting.</p><p class=MsoNormal>[...]</p><p class=MsoNormal>*Resolution* - we agreed to clearly focus our X3Dv4 efforts: confirmed yes to glTF, but no to STL and OBJ unless someone outside the core implementers takes the time to provide commonly usable converters and specification prose.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Subsequent discussion on today's Design Printing Scanning call indicated that this remains a desirable possibility that can be considered in the future. Creating a Javascript-based X3D prototype that can work in X3DOM and X_ITE is a good way to proceed.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Still TODO: Don will update Mantis regarding STL/OBJ and Dick will review on next editors call.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>2. Email report on X3DUOM</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> [x3d-public] X3DMetadataObject refactoring for X3D XML Schema, X3DUOM, X3DJSAIL and X3D Ontology progress</p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2019-September/011265.html</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>A significant and subtle twist was unravelled in that X3DMedataObject is simply an interface and should not inherit from abstract node type X3DNode.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This simplifies several constructs in X3DUOM, XML Schema, and derived APIs. There may be some further positive impacts on Shader and Layout nodes, further analysis to follow.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Hopefully unremarkable, no changes to content are expected. Review comments please.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>3. (from prior meeting) Takamatsu meeting quicklook.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> - Humanoid Animation (HAnim) approvals by ISO editors, defenestration of hyphenization for enumeration *HAnim*.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> - Medical progress: representing human organs using HAnim, big strategy is possible, HL7 collaboration.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> - Smart Cities opportunities abound in future: X3D as connection and presentation layer for many things.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> - ISO requested to go open on Mixed Augmented Reality (MAR) specifications. Bodes well for X3Dv4.1.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> - Khronos cooperative dialog and activity continues well.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> - Reopened issue: Vince and Don are following up on JTC1 joint group on 3D printing and scanning.</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> Expect to distribute a number of meeting materials following discussion and review by Web3D Board of Directors. Membership has value! 8)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Release of reports pending following BoD review.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>4. Standards Relationships diagram - proposed update review, see attached comparison in last weeks agenda.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Just refinements, no major changes. Flipping in full-screen mode makes differences easy to compare.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>No review comments received, expect to approve and publish following final discussion.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>5. /Field name changes/ for improved consistency, affects child SF/MFNode field naming for ~10 nodes.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Potential future changes for improved consistency of field names</p><p class=MsoNormal> https://www.web3d.org/x3d/content/examples/X3dSceneAuthoringHints.html#fieldNameChanges</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>These changes are necessary variations on X3Dv4 syntax proposed to avoid unintended mismatches and achieve unified field representations in X3Dv4.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Primary discussion topic this week.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>6. *glTF X3D Features Comparison*. Would anyone like to lead this review update?</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> * Attachment [3]: glTF X3D Features Comparison (3 NOV 2017)</p><p class=MsoNormal>> https://www.web3d.org/sites/default/files/page/X3D%20Version%204%20Strategy/glTfX3dFeaturesComparison.pdf</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> * source at</p><p class=MsoNormal>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12ebxqfQoFPuNhaz8wZkNE6G-w_bqt98iy6p5F9IazVM/edit#gid=0</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Comparison task still available for a glTF-X3D user.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>7. Annotations component*. Node refactoring for clarity and conciseness proposed, spec prose changes posted. Request feedback.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> [x3d-public] X3Dv4 Annotation Component revision, request review</p><p class=MsoNormal> http://web3d.org/pipermail/x3d-public_web3d.org/2019-September/011260.html</p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>8. *X3Dv4 topics*</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> X3Dv4 Implementations Status</p><p class=MsoNormal> http://www.web3d.org/x3dv4-implementations</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>a. /API Progress Review/ with special thanks to Masaki Aono and Myeong Won Lee.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> Status of Web3D drafts and submissions to ISO:</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> * We do have NWIPs and prior draft documents at</p><p class=MsoNormal>> https://github.com/Web3DConsortium/X3D/tree/master/ISO-IEC19777</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> * Specification timeline spreadsheet</p><p class=MsoNormal>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GdVcjQIid0Hohc_ajmepVOESy2sLtHSVvbvsFni89w8/edit#gid=1641828106</p><p class=MsoNormal>> </p><p class=MsoNormal>> We have sent a query to Dr. Myeong Won Lee to see if she is already working on updating the existing drafts.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>No response noted. Dick please advise.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>> This was covered well at meetings of Web3D Korea Chapter last January and at SIGGRAPH last July. TODO: get those slides online in a good place.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Standing by.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>9. *Getting Connected*</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Recently Web3D meetings have switched to Zoom channels, to good effect. Zoom allows use of internet audio, screen sharing, and chat with links.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We meet regularly on Fridays 0800-0930 pacific. Connection information is available for members on the following page.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Web3D Members: Teleconference Information</p><p class=MsoNormal> https://www.web3d.org/member/teleconference-information</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The X3D Graphics Working Group addresses all X3D specification issues and coordinates the technical development of future improvements.</p><p class=MsoNormal> https://www.web3d.org/working-groups/x3d</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Each week we report out both public and member-only information - membership has value. To become a Web3D Consortium member:</p><p class=MsoNormal> Join the Web3D Consortium</p><p class=MsoNormal> https://www.web3d.org/join</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Have fun with X3D! 8)</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>all the best, Don</p><p class=MsoNormal>-- </p><p class=MsoNormal>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu</p><p class=MsoNormal>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</p><p class=MsoNormal>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>x3d mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>x3d@web3d.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d_web3d.org</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>