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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Me> ECMAScript language bindings for our X3D scene authoring interface (SAI).</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Very polite reminder> For me, SAI sometimes reads as Scene Access Interface.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So true, my mistake, the spec is clear about what the name should be, so maybe this is an authoring library?</p><p class=MsoNormal>Scene Description Library sounds like fun stuff as a library of descriptions of scenes and scene elements and interactions.</p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, </p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com">Andreas Plesch</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, January 23, 2020 3:08 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net">Joe D Williams</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] SAI</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi John,</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>though perhaps not too late, I did not really expect a change in name, just pointing out the potential for confusion and trying out what a different name would lead to in an abstract way.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>x_ite already implements the existing SAI very completely. There is nothing really to do from what I can tell. It may be possible to decouple the x_ite in memory scene representation and runtime management/event flow from webgl rendering, and run on node.js. But I am not sure how useful that would be..</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andreas</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 4:17 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t think we’re apt to change X3DJSAIL’s name. We do have to name the similar Ecmascript or JavaScript project. It is likely we will use X_ITE for SAI—not sure about X3DOM. It would be nice if it was independent of Angular, React, Vue, so any proprietary or open source framework could be used alongside.</p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I kind of like X3DJS-B “jazz-b”—Similar to JAX-B. Or just X3D Jazz.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 8:29 AM Andreas Plesch <<a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com" target="_blank">andreasplesch@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just clarifying that I was referring to UOM based effort to generate functionality for many languages led by Don. More below.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jan 22, 2020, 4:00 PM Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com" target="_blank">Andreas Plesch</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, January 18, 2020 6:56 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">Joe D Williams</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] X3D minutes, 17 JAN 2020: X3Dv4 progress,renamehidden as visible, name types, Mantis issue resolution</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 7:41 PM Joseph D Williams <<a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" target="_blank">joedwil@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:40.8pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif'> </span>Ecmascript Scene Programming Interface.</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:16.2pt'>Otherwise known as ECMAScript language bindings for our X3D scene authoring interface (SAI).</p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>Thanks for All,</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'>Joe </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I am trying out different names since this effort has a different focus than the existing SAI.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This is more about construction or description, so SCI or SDI were other attempts.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Andreas</p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Fine, Andreas, </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I was concerned about the ‘Programming’ part of that name. Of course, for most uses it is eventually a runtime programming system but as you said, your goal might be above all that because you are describing the construction of a scene and its contents at an abstraction or possibly a automated concretization level for scene contents and interactivity at a level hopefully far above the style of actual x3d user code. So, scene description or scene construction at a very high level very isolated from x3d user code are closer.. </p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This isolation from x3d user code is why I am a bit concerned with the potential for confusion when the JSAIL effort reuses the phrase SAI. For me, SAI sometimes reads as Scene Access Interface.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And, yes, you are discussing an ‘interface’ in the best sense, but how does this work? What descriptors or constructors are you presenting to the user? Is there a better word than Interface?</p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps just 'library' ? X3DJSDL X3D Java Scene Description Library ?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks and Best, </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:4.8pt'> </p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>x3d-public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org" target="_blank">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>---on the phone---</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>