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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>> develop test cases for x3d4 or HAnim, I will do that. Thanks to Joe for pointing me there.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I can talk with you about hanim examples/tests most any time, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks and Best, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, March 24, 2020 7:23 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Don Brutzman</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com">Andreas Plesch</a>; <a href="mailto:kunger@ssdllc.biz">Katie Unger</a>; <a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] JSweet translation of X3DJSAIL to JavaScript: needspecific design goals first</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps I haven’t been clear. I see my position @ Web3d as a tester, thus I expect to collaborate with other stakeholders to create test cases or example behaviors we want the system to perform.</p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have abundant XML that I can generate test cases from. I’m not generating code out of the blue. I have a goal of generating code out of the blue, but that’s a long term goal. This would be done to do code coverage.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I accidentally fell into a library writer position when we got to python.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I added my JSONParser to the browsers because no one was doing it, and I needed a real environment to test in.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t see anything wrong with generating different versions of HelloWorld.js.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I resign from library development. If someone wants me to develop test cases for x3d4 or HAnim, I will do that. Thanks to Joe for pointing me there.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As a tester, I build code that I assert will not work, or I check the XML to see if the scene is supposed to fail.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The test cases for node are currently failing big time, I know. I know I use methods instead of array access. That needs to be fixed. There are properties in the SAI I haven’t really spotted in the X3DUOM, so perhaps I need to look harder. I need to add route methods to my serializer.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:23 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Design goal: add existing X3D ecmascript SAI to HTML5 (chrome) and node.js</p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I tend to work from examples rather than specifications. Once we have our test cases, we can start coding the library, using “test driven development.” or “behavior driven development.”</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We will build an npm environment, probably using webpack and yarn, and a suitable test framework. Then I will start coding tests using the test framework. I believe we can use phantomjs or similar to run test cases in.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I will look for the Transform example.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good news is I’m saving enough money on “shelter in place “ to afford a Web3d membership.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>John</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:44 PM Don Brutzman <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</p></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:9.6pt'>On 3/24/2020 3:48 PM, John Carlson wrote:<br>> It seems like you have issues with the “generate first” approach. [...]<br><br>Yes. Don't do that. Don't even bother thinking about that.<br><br>Please look again at what I wrote. You need specific design goals first.<br><br>all the best, Don<br>-- <br>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<br>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics <a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank">http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>