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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Perhaps a separate section on implementation notes could have ...</li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, I would think a small set that shows protos in case the browser you are using does not do native hanim.</p><p class=MsoNormal>Tha is the reason we had protos originally, there were only one or two tools that knew about hanim. </p><p class=MsoNormal>Of course we also need example protos for displacer and skin but those require scripts. Boxman sort of protos for the skin and I did see a script for displacer once, I think. Really, the hanim is just too complex for scripted protos</p><p class=MsoNormal>I just think we ought to publish a current xml version rather than classic and especially rather than v1 vrml.</p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,</p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:andreasplesch@gmail.com">Andreas Plesch</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, March 30, 2020 1:58 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] HAnim examples</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>To me it looks like the Protos in the document are only there to</p><p class=MsoNormal>reinforce the signatures of the group/transform like HAnim nodes, and</p><p class=MsoNormal>perhaps as a fallback if these nodes are not supported natively by a</p><p class=MsoNormal>browser. Not sure if it is a good idea to have the Protos in the</p><p class=MsoNormal>example. Perhaps a separate section on implementation notes could have</p><p class=MsoNormal>those instead.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The reason why these examples are given in VRML encoding is perhaps</p><p class=MsoNormal>that the Protos could be just omitted and the main Humanoid node would</p><p class=MsoNormal>still work. In XML encoding, the Protos would be only useful if there</p><p class=MsoNormal>are corresponding ProtoInstances, eg. without the Protos the XML of</p><p class=MsoNormal>the main Humanoid starts to look different. Also, VRML is less verbose</p><p class=MsoNormal>and little easier to look at.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers, -Andreas</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________</p><p class=MsoNormal>x3d-public mailing list</p><p class=MsoNormal>x3d-public@web3d.org</p><p class=MsoNormal>http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>