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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>One thing is that we might tend to name available functions from the tools and map the tools to the human. Best to start with what the human can do or wants to do and map the human to the tools. That is why the tools need to provide an accessible list of functions. Also, that is why we want figure out define what the human should be able to do to interact with the scene. </p><p class=MsoNormal>For navigation, it has to be up to the author to set the best mode, then for the user to be able to select another. Simple things, like is examine to supposed to adjust the view by rotating a selected part of the scene, or for the view to orbit around a selected point, may turn out to be big questions. </p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com">GPU Group</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, June 15, 2020 6:02 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:mufti11@web.de">J. Scheurich</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] [x3d] Spec Comment by dougsandenon19775-1:X3DArchitecture - V3.0</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good point Jorge - keyboards can be awkward / just not available in some configurations. </p><div><p class=MsoNormal>IIRC v4.1 of specs is going to be about AR/VR HMD. And in an increasingly crowded and competitive field of 3D graphics, it may appear to some that web3d is for desktop only based on the current spec wording for EXPLORE. That would be too bad - I think the rest of the specs are pretty good about not specifying input devices.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Summary:</p><div><p class=MsoNormal>1) How to redefine EXPLORE more generally, so different input devices can be mapped to the functionality (and put suggested desktop keyboard mappings, other suggested mappings in AppendixG)</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2) how to define new GAME and HELICOPTER and future navigation types without referring to specific input devices?</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-Doug</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 9:39 PM J. Scheurich <<a href="mailto:mufti11@web.de">mufti11@web.de</a>> wrote:</p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><br>> Yes Joe - great thoughts.<br>> Keyboard: mobile devices 'pop up' a keyboard or if you pin it its<br>> taking up valuable screen space<br><br>But if the smart phone is enclosed in a "VR cardboard", you are unable<br>to press the<br>"popup kebord" 8-(<br><br>so long<br>MUFTI<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>x3d-public mailing list<br><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">x3d-public@web3d.org</a><br><a href="http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org" target="_blank">http://web3d.org/mailman/listinfo/x3d-public_web3d.org</a></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>