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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Sounds like your typical online shopping cart. You'd still use 2D
images for textures, then add fields for X3D objects. Install that within a
virtual store, make everything searchable, and 3D items pop-up in the scene when
there are hits. Pretty much exactly what I am working on now with my limited
means, it's like merging an online store with virtual reality. It can work with
both RL merchandise and inworld items that avatars own. Commerce would be great
too. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Not a final concept, but the general lines of what's needed to
be explored in more depth. We probably should put a business plan together and
start seeking investors. Then hire within the X3D community and get this show
on the road. GL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>* * * Interactive Multimedia - Internet Management * * *<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> * * Virtual Reality -- Application Programming * *<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> * 3D Net Productions 3dnetproductions.com *<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> John Carlson
[mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 26, 2020 6:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christoph Valentin; info@3dnetproductions.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> X3D Graphics public mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Re: [x3d-public] higher level networking and
potential for animated semantics.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps we should not only consider 3D business, but also 3D
Commerce and VR Commerce.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>How does one purchase real products in 3D and VR, for
example.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>How might we provide something beyond 2D videos and images
realistic enough to be convincing? AR?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Something like:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Vendor, product = ProductSearch(terms, filters)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Items = Select(selector)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Price = quote(item, vendor)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Visualize(item, price)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Purchase(item, price, vendor, credential, funds)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Package = prepareForDelivery(item)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>TrackingInfo = Deliver(package, name, address)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Track = Find(TrackingInfo)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Perhaps we should make it easy
for someone to create an online 3D shop?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>What is the best 3D representation of an exchange? A
phone or smartcard “swiping”?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>What if we replaced cashiers with cameras/robots?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a
href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at">Christoph
Valentin</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Saturday, December 26, 2020 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:info@3dnetproductions.com">info@3dnetproductions.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing
list</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Aw: Re: [x3d-public] higher level networking and potential
for animated semantics.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Lauren, John,<br>
<br>
Imho the first priority is not to build yet another game engine (this might
happen as a side effect), but to collaboratively realize one collaboration use
case in a completely open manner and to DEFINE THE PROTOCOL in the form of an
IETF I-D.<br>
<br>
Some parts of the software might be closed source but the PROTOCOLS &
INTERFACES should really be defined in an open way.<br>
<br>
just my opinion.<br>
<br>
yours Christoph<br>
<br>
P.S. if I receive two or three indications of interest, I can seize the holiday
season and provide a draft.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail gesendet.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Am 26.12.20, 18:48 schrieb John Carlson
<yottzumm@gmail.com>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>I had more here, but got
disenheartened<span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>.
All that is left is my Fuzzy Mine requirements and the below</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I suggest we work on a collaborative
game system, maybe encompassing various types of Game Theory.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="http://gamut.stanford.edu/">http://gamut.stanford.edu/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><a href="https://ludii.games/">https://ludii.games/</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>Then we move into “Work Theory.” Where
we design “roles” for people to fill. And build a workplace suitable for
COVID-* based on those roles. Perhaps we should allow people to design
their own workspaces.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>I do not have a clear plan here. That’s
what’s frustrating.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>It’s kind of like we’re designing a
whole new planet!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'>John</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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