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<div>the ALP defines PDUs, that can be transmitted via any transport protocol. So they also support https, for sure.</div>

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<b>Von:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Chris Thorne" <dragonmagi@gmail.com><br/>
<b>Cc:</b> x3d-public@web3d.org<br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [x3d-public] Multiuser: The Application Layer Protocol (final draft)</div>

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<div class="mail_android_message" style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Hi Chris,<br/>
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Sorry this is a misconception.<br/>
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I am not providing any software. The paper is intended to be one of some *starting* points for two independent implementations.<br/>
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The intention is to let it be a final draft, until volunteers have implemented it. Afterwards it can move on to be released.<br/>
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Probably it won't be adopted by anyone. That's not my problem ;-)<br/>
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kr<br/>
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<div>I haven't been following this, do you already support https?</div>

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<div>Chris Thorne, PhD. Relatively Human.</div>

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<div><font size="3"><b><i>Putting relativity into computation</i></b></font></div>

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<p style="margin-bottom: 0.0cm;"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><font color="#1a1a1a"><font size="2">Research profile: </font></font><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chris_Thorne3" target="_blank"><font color="#0000e9"><font size="2"><u>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Chris_Thorne3</u></font></font></a></font></p>

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<div class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 17 Jan 2021 at 06:01, Christoph Valentin <<a href="mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:christoph.valentin@gmx.at'; return false;" target="_blank">christoph.valentin@gmx.at</a>> wrote:</div>

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I felt free to update the fourth draft of the application layer protocol:<br/>
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<a href="https://github.com/christoph-v/spark/blob/fourth_draft/ALP/01-ALP-over-RTP(BCP).pdf" target="_blank">https://github.com/christoph-v/spark/blob/fourth_draft/ALP/01-ALP-over-RTP(BCP).pdf</a><br/>
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If I will not receive an objection, then I will release the final draft by next weekend.<br/>
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Chapter 1. Introduction<br/>
Chapter 2. Overview (Use Cases, Requirements, Ideas)<br/>
Chapter 3. The Application Layer Protocol<br/>
               - PDUs<br/>
               - Example Scenarios - Centralized Mode<br/>
               - Example Scenarios - Distributed Mode (new !!!!)<br/>
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Have a nice week<br/>
Yours Christoph<br/>
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2021 um 23:48 Uhr<br/>
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An: "Feng Liu" <<a href="mailto:LIU_F@mercer.edu" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:LIU_F@mercer.edu'; return false;" target="_blank">LIU_F@mercer.edu</a>>, "Amela Sadagic" <<a href="mailto:asadagic@nps.edu" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:asadagic@nps.edu'; return false;" target="_blank">asadagic@nps.edu</a>>, "Nicholas Polys" <<a href="mailto:npolys@vt.edu" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:npolys@vt.edu'; return false;" target="_blank">npolys@vt.edu</a>>, "Jacek Jankowski" <<a href="mailto:jacek.jankowski@live.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:jacek.jankowski@live.com'; return false;" target="_blank">jacek.jankowski@live.com</a>><br/>
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Betreff: [x3d-public] NY Times: "V.R. Is Not a Hit. That’s OK."<br/>
Trough of disillusionment anyone? 8)<br/>
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* V.R. Is Not a Hit. That’s OK.<br/>
NY Times: ON TECH, Shira Ovide, 5 January 2021<br/>
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<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/05/technology/virtual-reality.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/05/technology/virtual-reality.html</a><br/>
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"Not every technology needs to be in the hands of billions of people to make a difference. Finding a comfy niche can be good enough."<br/>
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(11 JAN 2021 in print edition)<br/>
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all the best, Don<br/>
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