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<div>Sounds good and interesting. If nobody else supports this, then I'll probably look for a solution.</div>
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<div>Give me a day (by tomorrow I must finish my technical input for a bid), then I'll take two days off (Fr - Mo).</div>
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<div>Will think about a solution, probably based on "the society"'s vServer/VPN and/or the GitHub repository github.com/christoph-v/spark.</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2021 um 17:15 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "John Carlson" <yottzumm@gmail.com><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Christoph Valentin" <christoph.valentin@gmx.at>, "X3D Graphics public mailing list" <x3d-public@web3d.org><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: Aw: [x3d-public] Fwd: Multiuser: Centralized scenegraph repository with Git</div>
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<div>Another thing I should be able to do is generate statistics of the scenegraphs with standard Linux tools.</div>
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<p>I'm not sure why, and possibly, it's throwaway code.</p>
<p>1) provide a way to synchronize a scenegraph between client/server</p>
<p>2) provide a way to synchronize a scenegraph between multiple peers</p>
<p>3) Try out the UNIX "everything's a file" philosophy.</p>
<p>4) Experiment with data structure on top of a file system, persistent data structures that don't go away after the process exits.</p>
<p>5) Experiment with configuration management of scenegraphs.</p>
<p>Umm</p>
<p>Has anyone hooked Git into a browser?</p>
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<p>John</p>
<div>On 2/23/21 11:57 PM, Christoph Valentin wrote:</div>
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I think I've understood now, HOW you want to do it.<br/>
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Just I cannot catch the WHY.<br/>
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Indeed, it would be a new encoding type.<br/>
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Why not just upload the files to git, as they are? Is it because you have more freedom, when putting the scene together from nodes and routes?<br/>
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In this case I would not only provide a directory in a github repository, but also TWO ACCOUNTS AT THE OWNCLOUD FRAMEWORK,<br/>
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one for authoring/composing the scene, the other for playing the game.<br/>
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looking fwd to your answer<br/>
Christoph<br/>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.3em;">Am 23.02.21, 23:21 schrieb John Carlson <a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank"><yottzumm@gmail.com></a>:
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<div>I can lay it out here in a description where you take X3D JSON objects and convert them to folders and files.</div>
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<div>JSON objects are converted to folders.</div>
<div>Keys become folder names and file names. MFNode JSON arrays are converted to a whole number indexed filenames. Values are stored in files. Ordinary MF fields (eg. MFInt32) are stored inside files.</div>
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<div>One will also need to do round trip.</div>
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<div>Updates/pulls/pushes are done through got.</div>
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Date: Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 11:24 AM<br/>
Subject: Re: [x3d-public] Multiuser: Centralized scenegraph repository with Git<br/>
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<div style="line-height: 1;padding: 0.5em;">Hi John,<br/>
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I've been using gitlab and github at my employer's.<br/>
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Coincidally I've got three github repositories, where at least one would fit to the topic.<br/>
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I was considering to use file sharing with the owncloud framework.<br/>
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What exactly do you need? What will be the topic of the prototype?<br/>
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You can send a PM at facebook, if you want to keep the details private.<br/>
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kr<br/>
Christoph<br/>
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<div>Am 23.02.21, 17:38 schrieb John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>>:</div>
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solution based on git.<br/>
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This would provide a 3rd X3D encoding, encoded in an online file system,<br/>
similar to WebDAV or Git.<br/>
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Updates are done through push and pull requests.<br/>
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Security and extra features would be provided by git (gitlab, bitbucket,<br/>
github, etc.)<br/>
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This would make a good first prototype. Then we could proceed with<br/>
optimization.<br/>
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So, how does one store the X3D nodes and statements in a file system? <br/>
Anyone?<br/>
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Has anyone dealt with git source code?<br/>
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John<br/>
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