<div dir="auto">It might be interesting to get Vivaty working with a windows emulator.</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:30 PM John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="auto">Oh, good. I thought the behavior was Linux only. Thanks for confirmation.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I don’t know of defaults. I run freewrl out of ~/Downloads</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 6:46 PM Don Brutzman <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">Hi John, yes it certainly sounds like X3D-Edit is the cause of the confusion you are describing.<br>
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When I try to change and save the view3dscene preferences, encountered the same problem.<br>
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Found and fixed the bug in source code, change checked in.<br>
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We are still having trouble with a bug that crept in Sunday night, will report when next release is available.<br>
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Thanks for this helpful issue report.<br>
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p.s. still happy to get improved default locations of linux or macos for any of these tools.<br>
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On 5/31/2021 7:50 PM, John Carlson wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> It's not the file overwritten, it's the text field entry in X3D-Edit<br>
> Preferences. And when you try to launch the preference you've<br>
> overwritten, to use view3dscene, it tries to launch "VivatyPlayer." --<br>
> "Error launching external viewer: Cannot run program "VivatyPlayer" (in<br>
> directory "/tmp"): error=2, No such file or directory" -- Sorry for any<br>
> confusion. The preference entry for viewx3dscene becomes<br>
> "SwirlX3DPlayer", which is even more confusing. On top of that, the<br>
> view3dScene menu item in the "View Saved Scene" menu does not get enabled.<br>
> <br>
> Again, the FreeWRL preference works perfectly AFAICT, so it's very<br>
> confusing!<br>
> <br>
> On 5/31/21 2:10 PM, Michalis Kamburelis wrote:<br>
>> To be honest I find it hard to believe that something else, not<br>
>> view3dscene, brutally overwrites "/usr/bin/view3dscene" file. Are you<br>
>> sure this is the case?<br>
>><br>
>> It seems much more likely that you simply miss "/usr/bin/view3dscene"<br>
>> file and X3D-Edit just makes a fallback on some other X3D browser. I<br>
>> do not know how did you install view3dscene, but (as I wrote above) it<br>
>> is not necessarily in /usr/bin/ (as non-root you may not even have<br>
>> permissions to put it there). If you got view3dscene from<br>
>> <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0</a> , then it is wherever you<br>
>> unpacked it -- and only you know where. Maybe<br>
>> "/home/<myusername>/Downloads/view3dscene/view3dscene"? It really<br>
>> completely depends on you.<br>
>><br>
>> If you are sure that something overwrites "/usr/bin/view3dscene",<br>
>> please show me the output of<br>
>><br>
>> ls -Flah /usr/bin/view3dscene<br>
>><br>
>> strings /usr/bin/view3dscene > view3dscene-strings.txt<br>
>><br>
>> on your system.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Michalis<br>
>><br>
>> pon., 31 maj 2021 o 19:17 John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> napisał(a):<br>
>>> When I specify /usr/bin/view3dscene and press launch, it tries to VivatyPlayer. SwirlX3Dplayer (sp?) overwrites /usr/bin/view3dscene.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 5:05 AM Michalis Kamburelis <<a href="mailto:michalis.kambi@gmail.com" target="_blank">michalis.kambi@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> What is the problem exactly? Where is the bugreport?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If you download view3dscene from<br>
>>>> <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GqddG6jorLzTaZ3FclfudLzff3J2NaREyp7PtOUjOpQ%3D&reserved=0</a> , it is a zip file, and the<br>
>>>> binary is available whenever you unpacked it.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If you installed view3dscene from binary packages, it is available in<br>
>>>> /usr/bin/ , but you should probably not hardcode this path. It is<br>
>>>> available on $PATH , and you should call it assuming that.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> There's nothing special about launching view3dscene. I mean we have a<br>
>>>> number of command-line options (<br>
>>>> <a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php%23section_command_line_options&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=HAlPqOaUr5Kur1vptkJaYeKP69ozPBqFkLh%2BGadz5RU%3D&reserved=0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcastle-engine.io%2Fview3dscene.php%23section_command_line_options&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7C8d50179025714d036e2f08d924a81289%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637581128954989585%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=HAlPqOaUr5Kur1vptkJaYeKP69ozPBqFkLh%2BGadz5RU%3D&reserved=0</a><br>
>>>> ) but from X3D-Edit you probably just want to launch it with 1<br>
>>>> parameter - filename of X3D scene. view3dscene isn't different from<br>
>>>> freewrl or other viewers in this regard.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Regards,<br>
>>>> Michalis<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> niedz., 30 maj 2021 o 16:55 John Carlson <<a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" target="_blank">yottzumm@gmail.com</a>> napisał(a):<br>
>>>>> I believe view3dscene gets installed in /usr/bin, last I checked, but Michalis would know better.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> John<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 9:52 AM Don Brutzman <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> On 5/29/2021 12:05 PM, John Carlson wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> Michalis, you may want to monitor the bug report for adding view3dscene as an x3d player in X3D-Edit 4.0 on Linux. I don’t know if your users use X3D-Edit or not. I haven’t dug into why adding view3dscene doesn’t work yet. Note that adding freewrl does work, so I’m puzzled.<br>
>>>>>> Agreed, please let me know how to set defaults correctly. X3D-Edit includes author-convenience functionality for launching related X3D viewers and authoring tools effectively. The source includes user-modifiable default installation locations for Windows Mac and Linux, so I'm happy to include any updated default values whenever possible.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> * X3D-Edit Preferences panel exposes numerous settings for users<br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://savage.nps.edu/X3D-Edit/#Features" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://savage.nps.edu/X3D-Edit/#Features</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> all the best, Don<br>
>>>>>> -- <br>
>>>>>> Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
>>>>>> Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<br>
>>>>>> X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics <a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><br>
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all the best, Don<br>
-- <br>
Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<br>
X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics <a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a><br>
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