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    <p>Michalis, Doug,<br>
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    <p>Can you compare this X3D scene in view3dscene, X3DJSONLD versus
      FreeWRL?  I've only seen FreeWRL do what I expect.<br>
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    <p>Generally, why doesn't this validate?  I can't use an IS inside a
      fieldValue?</p>
    <p>One thing that I've noticed is that the JSON passes the 3.3 JSON
      schema, but not the 4.0 JSON schema.</p>
    <p>I'm curious as to what changed?</p>
    <p>I've attached the validating JSON as well.</p>
    <p>It would seem like a good goal would be maintaining compatibility
      with 3.3 scenes...<br>
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    <p>John<br>
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            <td>Re: [x3d-public] Spec problem with 3D texture axes:
              wrong-handed coordinate system</td>
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            <td>Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:34:18 -0500</td>
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            <td>John Carlson <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"><yottzumm@gmail.com></a></td>
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            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vmarchetti@kshell.com">vmarchetti@kshell.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vmarchetti@kshell.com"><vmarchetti@kshell.com></a>,
              X3D-Public <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"><x3d-public@web3d.org></a>, Don Brutzman
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      <p>Looking for something like this?   See attached<br>
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      <p>I figured there might be some good purpose for the rubik's
        code.</p>
      <p>You'll have to tweak the orientation, etc.  Possibly swap
        colors, etc.</p>
      <p>You can also change each color to a stretched box instead of a
        2 boxes.<br>
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      <p>I release this under the Web3D Consortium License, or to the
        public domain, whichever you want.</p>
      <p>If you need further help, maybe assigning axis, doing the 2D
        vertices, let me know</p>
      <p>Basic info is: boxproto is a single shape.  two is stacked
        boxprotos of same color.   four is two twos, eight is two fours.<br>
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      <p>John<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/27/21 4:59 PM, John Carlson
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        <p>On first glance, it looks good.  I would double check the
          standards text to see if it matches the conversion to x,y,z.</p>
        <p>One may want to do a better job of perspective?</p>
        <p>Perspective would probably be available in Blender or
          Titania. I've been trying out Titania a bit lately. It runs on
          Linux.  I'll see what I can to do duplicate your SVG with
          perspective.<br>
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        <p>John<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/27/21 2:54 PM, <a
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          Please evaluate whether attached figure meets needs of X3DV4
          specification document
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          <div class="">SVG (via Inkscape) format available upon request</div>
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          <div class="">Vince Marchetti</div>
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                <div class="">On Aug 27, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Brutzman,
                  Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a
                    href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" class=""
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                  wrote:</div>
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                    <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
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                      noted in Mantis 978,<span
                        class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                        href="https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=978"
                        style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"
                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/member-only/mantis/view.php?id=978</a></div>
                    <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The
                      following figure shows a left-handed coordinate
                      system.</div>
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href="https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V3.3/Part01/components/texture3D.html#f-3DTexture"
                        style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;"
                        class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.web3d.org/documents/specifications/19775-1/V3.3/Part01/components/texture3D.html#f-3DTexture</a></div>
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                    <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Wondering
                      how to fix – swap 2 axes can work.  Perhaps there
                      is a commonly used diagram in OpenGL (or
                      elsewhere) we might adopt and adapt?</div>
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                    <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Any
                      volunteers to do this (pretty please) to improve
                      X3D4 specification?</div>
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                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p
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                    <div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;
                      font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">all
                      the best, Don<br class="">
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                        Don Brutzman  Naval Postgraduate School, Code
                        USW/Br      <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                          href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" style="color:
                          blue; text-decoration: underline;" class=""
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                        Watkins 270,  MOVES Institute, Monterey CA
                        93943-5000 USA   +1.831.656.2149<br class="">
                        X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics<span
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                          href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman"
                          style="color: blue; text-decoration:
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