<div dir="auto">No harm done. We can discuss changes to c/c++/c# SAI. We need a place where members and invited guests can discuss such things (X3D-public) I don’t know if anyone has comments, I did have some initial comments, and most if not all were addressed.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So sure, let’s discuss c/C++/c# SAI (recent changes). Where should people go for the working draft that Myeong prepared?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Frankly, based on my emotional state, the less time I spend on GitHub, the better. I will likely remove all traces of <a href="https://GitHub.com/coderextreme/X3D">https://GitHub.com/coderextreme/X3D</a> soon…</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You suggested reporting issues on GitHub at one point. It’s difficult to report issues on documents only in Google drive or local disks.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I guess we’re reduced to quoting sections on X3D-public? How do we know which version people are referring to?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I know it’s hard to find diffs on GitHub. I know they are there. I suggest clicking on the title of a commit, if you can find the commit. It looks like Microsoft made it quite difficult compared to other versions of GitHub.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have added the C/C++/c# Examples under …/x3d/languages on sourceforge. But I probably haven’t committed. This is available to everyone. There should be an Examples folder under each language. Perhaps these examples can serve as a “Hello, World”?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As I can’t focus/attend well enough, I will pass on further document review, and pass it to people who are interested in c/c++/c#. If someone wants me to run some tests or develop test code, I think I can do that. I would prefer remaining a QA generalist/polyglot, but I can spend some time converting HAnim JSON to STL and back, as converting enhances my current portfolio. I would like to discuss which HAnim nodes have transforms with Joe, but that’s easy enough to figure out on my own as well.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">John</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 1:45 PM Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<li class="m_6923993969219267266MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">I have no idea what this pull request is supposed to do. Not finding a diff button. What is it?</li><li class="m_6923993969219267266MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">For X3D specification changes, we are typically not accepting pull requests. Instead we use x3d-public mailing list for discussion, and Mantis for distilled comments, and X3D meetings
for confirmation if needed. When Mantis reflects that consensus is achieved, spec editors Puk and Brutzman apply the changes.</li><li class="m_6923993969219267266MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Weekly minutes reflect these discussions and changes.</li><li class="m_6923993969219267266MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Member and public review eventually confirms all is well.</li><li class="m_6923993969219267266MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Web3D Consortium controls document up through SC24 acceptance of Committee Draft.</li><li class="m_6923993969219267266MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:0in">Again run by SC24, ISO member nations vote.</li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal">all the best, Don<br>
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Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank" style="font-family:"Courier New"">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<br>
X3D graphics, virtual worlds, navy robotics </span><a href="http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">http://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</span></a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 27, 2021 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org" target="_blank">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a>;
<a href="mailto:myeongwonlee@gmail.com" target="_blank">Myeong Won Lee</a>; <a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank">
Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a>; <a href="mailto:npolys@vt.edu" target="_blank">Nicholas Polys</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Pull request available on github Web3DConsortium/X3D for 19777</p>
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I'm trying to hold back changes in 2019, but I don't know how to do it.<br>
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<a href="https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FWeb3DConsortium%2FX3D%2Fpull%2F13&data=04%7C01%7Cbrutzman%40nps.edu%7Cdda4c63e0759445540a208d96983e8d7%7C6d936231a51740ea9199f7578963378e%7C0%7C0%7C637656837960805378%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=fc1BgsaSO1HoltfL2lKH6LwyCNBFIFRH5eSpEUfIAdk%3D&reserved=0" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:none;color:windowtext"><u><span style="color:blue">I
would like to hold back (or merge and delete) the 19777-6 changes (2019) and only create a partial pull request, but I don't know how. These changes are for 19777-{3,4,5} by coderextreme · Pull Request #13 · Web3DConsortium/X3D (github.com)</span></u></span></a><br>
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