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<p>The other thing we might do is restrict USE to nodes that appear
with the USE field in X3DUOM.</p>
<p>John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/25/21 10:03 PM, Joseph D Williams
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Don and All, </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2">The USE
pattern we were working on in the X3D JSON Schema was common
to all nodes,</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Then I think this could result in patterns
that are not ‘standard’ or acceptable or usable syntax. As I
read the example for hanimdisplacer which sort of matches
construction of an interpolator node it appeared that I could
put a USE in there to reference another displacer, I guess in
order to use the same points and displacements(?) as one
already defined. Maybe I am reading it wrong but I still can’t
think of any example of displacer or any other interpolator
where a USE is appropriate. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">And, for hanim, I predict still no
‘standard’ humanoid is able to have a USE included in Joint,
Segment, or Site nodes of a ‘standard’ skeleton, although
contained nodes of those nodes may use previously defined
stuffs.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">So, is the USE really common to all nodes?
If so, then I want extension to be able to USE just a field of
another node, such as using a common key time sequence in a
set of interpolators. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Respectfully seeking the Universal
Pattern(s) … <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">All Best, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman,
Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, October 25, 2021 12:10 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph D Williams</a>; <a
href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">John
Carlson</a><br>
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<b>Subject: </b>RE: [x3d-public] JSON Schema meeting
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Joe. The USE pattern we were working on
in the X3D JSON Schema was common to all nodes, not just HAnim
nodes. So no change of functionality expected.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We are always striving for consistent
expressive power for all the different language bindings and
file encodings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We have 3950 X3D Examples to test. More
are always welcome for the archives if you think that further
coverage is needed of some capability.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">all the best, Don<br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New",serif">-- <br>
Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a><br>
Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA
+1.831.656.2149<br>
X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics <a
href="https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a
href="mailto:joedwil@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">Joseph
D Williams</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 24, 2021 5:12 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">John Carlson</a>; <a
href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman,
Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">X3D Public Mailing List
(x3d-public@web3d.org)</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [x3d-public] JSON Schema meeting
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi John, Getting this to work will help.
Are you looking for examples to validate, beginning with a
.x3d file? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If I can include USE in the
HanimDisplacer pt. then I can include USE as Interpolator
key and value fields(?)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Including a USE in any of the HAnim…
nodes Joints, Segments, Sites is not going to work unless,
well, I can’t really see how it would work in a ‘standard’
humanoid.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Joe<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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Carlson</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, October 24, 2021 11:44 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org"
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [x3d-public] JSON Schema meeting
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Don, schema is here, python seems to be
working with added metaschema checks.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Next on agenda is bpy to JSON
conversion, possibly with added GUI/X3D conversion tool.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On
Oct 18, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Brutzman, Donald (Don)
(CIV) <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu"><brutzman@nps.edu></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">John and I reviewed his latest
schema today and discussed various design
considerations.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">His latest version, generated by
a Python program reading X3DUOM, is found as
follows:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/schema/x3d-4.0-JSONSchema.json">https://github.com/coderextreme/X3DJSONLD/blob/master/src/main/schema/x3d-4.0-JSONSchema.json</a><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Looking at the result in Firefox
was helpful because that has a great way to look at
JSON which allowed us to iconize/expand
(fold/unfold) as needed. Excerpt follows.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The result looks great. One
refinement John will handle: for nodes with a USE
field, no -children nodes are permitted.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Once he has the next version, I
will check it into the specifications directory
(next to X3D XML Schema and XML DOCTYPE).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">At that point we are ready to
begin further validation efforts using multivarious
tools against the many X3D examples in JSON, such as<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://savage.nps.edu/Savage/GroundVehicles/Jeep/Jeep.json">https://savage.nps.edu/Savage/GroundVehicles/Jeep/Jeep.json</a><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Testing without regex patterns is
good for now. A prior version had acceptable regex,
so that appears to be do-able.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Having fun with X3D JSON! 8)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New",serif">all the best, Don</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New",serif">-- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New",serif">Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate
School, Code USW/Br <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">brutzman@nps.edu</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New",serif">Watkins 270, MOVES Institute,
Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New",serif">X3D graphics, virtual worlds,
navy robotics https://</span> <span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier
New",serif">faculty.nps.edu/brutzman</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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