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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>This is just great stuff, combining years of experience with the deepest graphics tools, html, x3d, math, scripting, great photo collection, and our WWW with its standardized extensible interfaces. And, for x3d,I think there was some ideas based on NetworkSensor device between scenes and of course html dom Like the kid on the swing we are having fun now. Lets see some commentary and questions on the shader code. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:yottzumm@gmail.com">John Carlson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 9, 2021 5:49 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Graphics public mailing list</a> <br><b>Subject: </b>animated 3D multiuser. When? How?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have some parameters on a web page I'd like to share with people <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>across the web. I drag the sliders on my web page, and the sliders <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>modify on their web pages. The sliders affect the object in the scene. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The object and sliders should be near identical on all web pages.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>https://coderextreme.net/X3DJSONLD/src/main/html/sphere.html<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I don't need full 3D sharing. First focus on parameters, and then <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>perhaps position and orientation of the camera. Each web browser can do <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>graphics on it's own.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There are no avatars. Maybe just a pointer would be possible also to share.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>How might this be done in X3D, in a standards oriented fashion?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Why hasn't this already been achieved? What can I do with DIS?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I would suggest something like Socket.IO or Meteor, but I don't know <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>about multi-user DIS, HTML, XML or VRML standards yet (scripts? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>WebRTC?). It seems like setting up for multicast is a pain in the rear. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And VPN seems like a security incident waiting to happen.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ideally, I could accomplish this without server support, but a community <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>where I could add my friends, like Steam, would be preferred. It's <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>desirable to be able to put up like a so-called "Multi-press" or Discord <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>server would be easy for anyone. How do I hook up Discord to a shared <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>web page?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Voice can initially be done with other tools (Discord), but I hope X3D <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>audio, W3C audio or WebRTC can be used to do voice communication in the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>future.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I understand I can already do this through zoom in a kind of teacher has <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>entire control kind of way.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Can we create a best practices document to select tools for doing such <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>things and the effort required?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>