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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://davidfrerichs.github.io/">davidfrerichs.github.io</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'>Protozoa circa 1997 https://davidfrerichs.github.io/vrml/alliskator/scene.html delivered by #X_ITE #X3D to a browser near you, thanks @davidfrerichs<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So fun to see views reborn with a click with no installed x3d browser. </p><p class=MsoNormal>Of great interest is the animations driving alliskator and motogator and the idea of animating a humanoid-like character without using a skeleton. Instead of a skeleton hierarchy, the geometries are drawn in place, then moved using orientation interpolators to rotate the parts along with position (and scale. even) interpolators to move and form the parts into the correct relative location so to stay connected at the appropriate location(s) of the geometries. Just a small bit of experience doing it this way manually or even with tool to help strongly shows how nice it is to have a hierarchal skeleton with root and automagically firmly connected joints. </p><p class=MsoNormal>How to get from alli now to alli with skeleton? First to find good joint centers and fit skeleton to test if segment orientation animation can work the same as joint rotation animation when the skeleton is correct. Then, just the joint orientation (rotation) interpolators are needed and all geometry position animations will disappear. </p><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks to All,</p><p class=MsoNormal>Joe</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu">Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV)</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 30, 2022 8:13 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:x3d-public@web3d.org">X3D Public Mailing List (x3d-public@web3d.org)</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[x3d-public] X3D meeting minutes 28 JAN 2022: #VRML reveals onTwitter, Cultural Heritage, browser extensions, Project Wish List</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Attendees: Anita Havele, Vince Marchetti, Nicholas Polys, Dick Puk, Don Brutzman<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>Web3D Twitter<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>Lots of cool stuff being published thanks to VRML support by X_ITE X3D player https://create3000.github.io/x_ite<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>#VRML content showing excellent synchronization of singing and dancing by a cool character, the Alliskator by Protozoa circa 1997 https://davidfrerichs.github.io/vrml/alliskator/scene.html delivered by #X_ITE #X3D to a browser near you, thanks @davidfrerichs<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'>https://twitter.com/Web3DConsortium/status/1487813390563102725 <o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>more about pioneering performance animation company Protozoa found at "People Behind the Pixels" History of Computer Graphics https://historyofcg.com/pages/protozoa<o:p></o:p></li><ul style='margin-top:0in' type=disc><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo2'>https://twitter.com/Web3DConsortium/status/1487815123863408641 <o:p></o:p></li></ul><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>Upcoming: announce Web3D Annual Report availability https://www.web3d.org/news-story/web3d-consortium-2021-annual-report<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'>Other announcements are welcome, tell your story someday! <o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>Cultural Heritage workshop by Efe in Turkey went very well. Will post materials when available. Practitioners (brilliant young professors and enthusiastic students, hooray!) were really impressive and active with great projects. https://twitter.com/Web3DConsortium/status/1485743796528709633<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Next steps for Web3D Cultural Heritage:<o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=2 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Working group meeting?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Cultural Heritage event at SIGGRAPH? Are some submission deadlines still open? (not clear from website)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Candidate organizing theme: perhaps Building a Digital Library?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>SIGGRAPH History project https://history.siggraph.org ? coordinating volunteer activity, looking ahead to an anniversary, get “in the middle of the conversation” <o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Perhaps make archiving Web3D Conference content the focus? https://web3d.siggraph.org<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Of interest: Virginia Tech (VT) uses https://koha-community.org as digital library platform for their university. Interesting candidate goal for integrating X3D/VRML support into that open-source tool suite, similar to what we’ve already achieved using WordPress.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>Plugins and Extensions<o:p></o:p></li><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Interesting discussion about how X_ITE can play VRML directly, HTML > X_ITE javascript > load .wrl<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>X3DOM cannot play VRML directly, maybe a good feature to add someday…<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Wondered about variations, if we should encourage X_ITE, X3DOM to be able to directly play X3D/VRML without intervening HTML (essential a plugin approach)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Synergy created Chrome extensions … still available, links follow. Do these still work? Where is source?<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'>https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/x3d-viewer/nneaojlgmfmngeckfemdbfpgedgfpgdg</p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.75in'>https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/xite/obbhbiljgjpeoeijlnbnnmkajgiaggnc</p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=3 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>How to Create a Chrome extension in 10 minutes flat 2015: https://www.sitepoint.com/create-chrome-extension-10-minutes-flat<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Probably don’t want to encourage this as a main line of effort on Projects Wish List… writing extensions is probably necessary for security reasons by some applications, wondering if it is worthwhile option to pursue?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Meanwhile Windows 10 Edge browser helpfully offers “You can now add extensions from the Chrome Web Store to Microsoft Edge – click on Add to Chrome” button<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>Project Wish List review continues<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal> https://www.web3d.org/projects/wish-list<o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>How to get involved with Blender (posting issues and pursuing solutions) might be better presented there. Probably push towards #1, likely most popular.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Winnowing the list: pushing other things downward, then when finished ensure X3D Resources are updated.<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Focus the X3DOM and X_ITE entries to point people towards the activity, “get involved”<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Wordpress support has been demonstrated for 2 years now by Web3D Conference, is that documented and linked?<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>XMLSpy supports it<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Jordi Cardona had UltraEdit configuration, Don will work with him to finish<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>X3DOM and X_ITE support for WebXR remains desirable<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Keep focus on projects. Remove Annotations component (deferred to X3D4.1), update/remove other X3D4 architecture items that are already addressed<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>Remove Apache http configuration to X3D Resources<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level2 lfo1'>List should be in priority order with fluff removed<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=5 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>Progress towards resuming work on C/C++/C# implementations, discussion on mailing list, initial implementation by Suwon University is under Web3D Consortium open-source license, commencing weekly meetings.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0in' start=6 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo1'>X3D JSON Schema updated by John Carlson, good update information on mailing list. Tested OK so far, but JSON schema itself is still lingering in IETF Draft status and hasn’t been updated in over a year.<o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Next week: continuing focus on project wish list and encouraging tool development. We will continue this dialog in next few meetings. Good opportunity if someone wants to help keep that useful page tracking so much activity!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>No Web3D Consortium member-only information is included in these minutes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Another great week coming up. Have fun with X3D! 8)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>all the best, Don<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code USW/Br brutzman@nps.edu<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Watkins 270, MOVES Institute, Monterey CA 93943-5000 USA +1.831.656.2149<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>X3D graphics, virtual worlds, Navy robotics https://</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>faculty.nps.edu/brutzman<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>