<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Doug<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you for providing this reference to the list of notes supported.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Vince Marchetti</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 4, 2022, at 8:41 AM, GPU Group <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" class="">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">(Maybe a better measure of modernity is what version of web3d specs a browser/tool supports? It\s possible to support v4.0 and be compiled to x86. But those measures are harder to see from outside - not all tools come with a node and version checklist. Another measure is date stamp, when was it last time it was maintained. Freewrl part way through 2020, so doesn't have all the v4.0 changes. Another way is to require tools maintainers to submit (a link to a standard) node version support list. Here's a v3.3 list for freeWRL<div class=""><a href="http://freewrl.sourceforge.net/conformance.html" class="">FreeWRL Home Page (sourceforge.net)</a><br class=""></div><div class="">)<br class=""></div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:34 AM GPU Group <<a href="mailto:gpugroup@gmail.com" class="">gpugroup@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">(A funny thing with freeWRL - the windows XP x86 version still gets more downloads than the x64 version.<div class=""><a href="https://sourceforge.net/projects/freewrl/files/freewrl-win32/4.0/" target="_blank" class="">FreeWRL VRML/X3D browser - Browse /freewrl-win32/4.0 at SourceForge.net</a><br class=""></div><div class=""> Hypotheses: H0: a bug in x64 version we don't know about H1: a lot of x86 computers still in service H2: robots programmed to download XP version routinely haven't stopped H3: people download the most downloaded version, and it take time to shift momentum, ...)</div><div class="">-Doug Sanden</div></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:37 AM <a href="mailto:vmarchetti@kshell.com" target="_blank" class="">vmarchetti@kshell.com</a> <<a href="mailto:vmarchetti@kshell.com" target="_blank" class="">vmarchetti@kshell.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:00 AM, Brutzman, Donald (Don) (CIV) <<a href="mailto:brutzman@nps.edu" target="_blank" class="">brutzman@nps.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div style="font-family:Monaco;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none" class=""><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">We again meet this week 08-0900 Pacific on Web3D Consortium zoom line.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><span style="font-size:11pt" class=""> </span></div><ol start="3" type="1" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-top:0in" class=""><li style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">Is someone interested in leading updates to our X3D support spreadsheet?<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></li><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-top:0in" class=""><li style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">X3D Node Inventory Comparison<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></li><li style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx" target="_blank" class="">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.xlsx</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></li><li style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""><a href="https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf" target="_blank" class="">https://www.web3d.org/specifications/X3dNodeInventoryComparison.pdf</a></li></ul></ol></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would be interested in updating this resource, but propose limiting its scope:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-- Focus on viewers, applications which at a minimum visually render X3D (XML encoding) files. Omit tools which are primarily for authoring or content creation such as Blender, Meshlab, X3D-Edit</div><div class="">-- Limit to viewers which are accessible to non-expert users, do not require compiling from source, on one or more of these platforms</div><div class=""> -- Desktop: Windows, Linux, or MacOS, in their modern OS releases (no Windows XP applications!)</div><div class=""> -- Web browser viewers implemented as javascript libraries</div><div class=""> -- Web browser plugins or extensions which work in latest versions of the browsers</div><div class=""> -- mobile applications which are available on the mobile stores</div><div class=""> -- VR device software which is publically available</div><div class="">-- Cover both ( open-source or closed-source ) and (no-cost or purchased application)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Propose refining this scope at the Feb 4 WG meeting, and reviewing what applications meet these criteria. My partial list would be</div><div class="">X3DOM</div><div class="">X-ITE</div><div class="">Xj3D</div><div class="">Instant Player</div><div class="">BS Contact</div><div class="">view3dscene</div><div class="">Octaga (?)</div><div class="">Chrome X3D extension</div><div class="">FreeWRL</div><div class="">H3D Viewer</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">------</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Vince Marchetti</div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">
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